Link Table Versus XML Column For One-to-many Relationship
Jun 10, 2007
I am designing a database schema where several tables have one-to-many relationships to records in other tables. One way to implement it is to create a link table for each pair of tables that have a relationship:
identity
Table1_ID
Table2_ID
1
12
9
2
12
15
3
18
42With the SQL 2005 support for the XML data type, there is the possibility of storing the IDs in an XML column. The XML stored with a record (equivalent to record 12 from the above example) might look like this:
<Links>
<Table2_LinkType>
<ID>9</ID>
<ID>15</ID>
</Table2_LinkType>
<Table8_LinkType>
. . .
</Table8_LinkType>
</Links>The XML column method has the advantage of not requiring that a separate table be created but does not enforce referential integrity. The link table method has the advantage of allowing constraints to enforce referential integrity but has the disadvantage of requiring the creation of a separate table for each pair of tables having a relationship and joining to an additional table has performance implications. Implementing standard Add, List and Delete operations for the link table method is straightforward. As a test and to familiarize myself with the new XML features, I created Set, List and Delete stored procedures for the XML method. Both methods will work.
In deciding which method to go with are there any other issues I should be considering besides database integrity, complexity and possible performance issues?
From the standpoint of best practices and coding standards is one method preferred over the other?
Here is some additional information. The data set I will be working with has table sizes numbering in the hundreds of thousands. Any given record will only be linked to at most a half-dozen records in any other table.
I searched on-line for information and I was able to find plenty of good articles discussing how to use the new XML data type in SQL. However, I was not able to find any information on when not to use the XML data type over equivalent joined-table methods.
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Feb 3, 2006
When trying to link to an SQL table in Access 2003, the software appears to be malfunctioning.
The sequence of events is File - Get External Data - Link Tables - Files of Type: ODBC Databases().
The Problem: On two of my computers, the select data source window does not pop up, preventing me from linking to any ODBC data source.
Observations: This function has worked normally in the recent past and works on other computers running Access 2003. One difference between the computers working and non-working computers is Norton Antivirus 2006 (recent upgrade).
Has anyone experienced anything like this? What's going on?
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Would it be easier on tempdb if the #TempTable is replaced by a table variable? Or do they all end up in tempdb?
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Hi,
I need to concatenate a field from certain number of rows. I created a function to return the concatenated value which will be a part of another view/procedure to be used for reporting purposes.
Here's sample data:
iIncidentID iWorkNoteID iseqNum workNoteAll
1 1 1 notes1(1275 chars)
2 1 1 notes2(1275 chars)
2 1 2 notes3(1275 chars)
3 1 1 notes4(1275 chars)
3 1 2 notes5(1275 chars)
3 1 3 notes6(1275 chars)
Final output
iIncidentID workNoteALL
1 notes1(1275 chars)
2 notes2 notes3
3 notes4 notes5 notes6
final woorkNoteAll will be a part of a query in another view which contains many other fields.
Here's the function. I'm passing an ID and based on that ID, the function returns a string. However, when I tested the function it's giving me a null.
/*
--Calling syntax:: Select dbo.getIncidentNotes(187714) as 'Notes'
--Function to get all the latest notes for an incident
*/
CREATE FUNCTION dbo.getIncidentNotes(@iIncidentID int)
RETURNS varchar(8000)
AS
BEGIN
DECLARE @allnotes varchar(8000)
DECLARE @seqnotes varchar(255)
DECLARE @seqnum int
DECLARE @counter int
SELECT @counter=1
SELECT @seqnum = max(iseqnum) from dbo.frs_weekly_prospect_status2 where iIncidentId=@iIncidentID
WHILE (@COUNTER <=@seqnum)
BEGIN
SELECT @seqnotes = workNoteALL from dbo.frs_weekly_prospect_status2 where iIncidentId=@iIncidentID and iSeqNum=@counter
SELECT @allnotes = @allnotes + @seqnotes
SELECT @COUNTER = @COUNTER + 1
END --While Begin
RETURN @allnotes
END
Can someone please tell me what's wrong with the code?
I really appreciate it.
Thanks in advance.
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I've got a dilemma which I hope someone has a solution to.
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There is in essence a parent-child relationship between these 2 columns. 737's should share a common set of reliability factors, and then those factors might be further defined by the series number (for instance, the 737 might have very reliable radar except for the 500 series). The series is analogous to what model year a car is. What I want to make sure doesn't happen is for the system to correlate a 747-400 and a 737-400 because they are the same series. They are totally independent if the model number is different.
My only idea was to merge the columns and have a single value "737-100". But it would seem then that the model won't have any idea that a "737-100" and "737-200" should have a lot more in common than a "737-100" because the values will be completely different.
I was hoping to find some sort of parent-child hint in the column properties but found none.
What solutions have other people tried? It sure seems that there should be an elegant solution for something like, but I'm missing it.
Geof
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Hi, all experts here,
Thank you very much for your kind attention.
I am trying to create a new mining structure with case table and nested table, the case table (fact table) has alread defined the relationships with the nested table(dimension table), and I can see their relationship from the data source view. But why the wizard for creating the new mining structure showed that message? Why is that? And what could I try to fix it?
Hope it is clear for your help.
Thanks a lot for your kind advices and I am looking forward to hearing from you shortly.
With best regards,
Yours sincerely,
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name {nvarchar(50)}
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I want to think about the best way to begin to set up this database with respect to the column that will link these tables together.
The info below is what has been given to me as my client's list of values/info she would like to include.
Here is my first pass, knowing that the ID columns need to be fixed. Thank you!
http://www.hazzsoftwaresolutions.net/db_diag.htm
Patients
ID
First Name
Last Name
DOB
1234-12
Joe
Smith
3/1/1960
5432-30
Bob
Jones
1/3/1991
3232-22
Paul
White
5/12/1982
PatientVisits
AutoID
PatientID
VisitDate
WeightPounds
HeightInches
1
1234-12
10/11/2001
180
68.5
2
1234-12
2/1/2003
185
68.7
3
5432-30
4/5/2000
155
63.0
4
5432-30
11/6/2000
165
63.0
5
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5/12/2001
164
63.5
6
3232-22
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220
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Operation (Commodity, OperationKey) ==========>
Commodity (Commodity)
/
/
|
|
Advice (OperationKey) ====== (inactive)=======>
Operation Commmodity (Commodity, OperationKey)
I have the following measure:
Advice No. Commodity:=CALCULATE (
COUNTROWS ( 'Advice' ),
USERELATIONSHIP(Advice[OperationKey],'Operation Commodity'[OperationKey]),
operation
)
However, the userelationship function does not override the active relationship between Operation & Advice and so the measure is limited to Advices directly filtered by the Operation table.
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Hi, I come back again.
Can anyone help me to create table with many-to-many relationship. Here is my three tables
tbl_Networks
(
NID int identity(1,1) primary key,
NetworkName nvarchar(256)
)
tbl_Categories
(
CID int identity(1,1) primary key,
CateName nvarchar(256),
NID int
)
tbl_Sim
(
SID int identity(1,1) primary key,
NID int,
CID int,
NameOfSim nvarchar(256)
)
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Hello,
I have 3 tables: Articles, ArticlesTags and Tags.
ArticleTags relate Articles and Tags records.
When I try to delete a record in Tags I get the following error:
The DELETE statement conflicted with the REFERENCE constraint
"FK_ArticlesTags_Tags". The conflict occurred in database "MyDB", table "dbo.ArticlesTags", column 'TagID'.
The statement has been terminated.
What am I doing wrong?
Here is how I am creating my tables:
create table dbo.Articles
(
ArticleID uniqueidentifier not null
constraint PK_Article primary key clustered,
Body nvarchar(max) not null
)
create table dbo.ArticlesTags
(
ArticleID uniqueidentifier not null,
TagID uniqueidentifier not null,
constraint PK_ArticlesTags
primary key clustered (ArticleID, TagID),
constraint FK_ArticlesTags_Articles
foreign key(ArticleID)
references dbo.Articles(ArticleID)
on delete cascade,
constraint FK_ArticlesTags_Tags
foreign key(TagID)
references dbo.Tags(TagID)
)
create table dbo.Tags
(
TagID uniqueidentifier not null
constraint PK_Tag primary key clustered,
[Name] nvarchar(200) not null
)
Basically, what I need is:
1. If an Article is deleted then:
> Delete all records for that Article in ArticlesTags
> Don't delete any Tag in Tags.
2. If an Tag is deleted then:
> Delete all records associated with it in ArticlesTags.
> Don't delete any Article in Articles.
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I
have 3 tables I am trying to relate for a music player. I was
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right. Here are tables i want to relate:
Table 1:
ArtistID
ArtistName:
Table 2:
RecordingID
RecordingName
ArtistID
Table 3:
TrackID
TrackName
TrackNumber
TrackLocation
RecordingID
So
the main idea here is that the foreign keys are recordingId and
artistID. So what i did is created the 3 tables and then make a
diagram to create the relationships. I then was reading this post:
http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=219696&SiteID=1
What
i want to do is use 2 different text boxes lets say and as i move from
the records in the Record_table (2) the corresponding artist will
change with it. However in the dataset the relationship looks like
this:
Artist -> Recording -> Track.... inorder for me to get
this relationship to work correctly i have to change all the
relationships in the dataset diagram. This way the dataset would look
like this: Track -> Recording ->Artist. This way i can use the
2 bindings to reference each other as stated in the link above. why
doesnt the relationship of the database know this already? why do i
have to change the relationship in the datasets.
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1. How can I create a view or a SP that will return a component record and all of its children and children's children records down to the last/lowest child record?
2. I need to be able to do a search in this table. Example:
Table: tbComponent
Columns: Co_ID Integer
Co_Co_ID Integer
Co_Name Text
Co_Attribute Text
Co_Category Text
Note: the data for Co_Category comes from a lookup table with also has a recursive relationship to itself where a category can have an unlimited number of tiers of children categories.
A typical group of records could be something like this:
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1 1 Car Blue Ford
2 1 Body Steel Parts
3 2 Door Front Parts
4 3 Invoice April 1 1999 Accounting
Ok, say there is over a million records in this table. Say I want to query this table and return all of the invoices for cars between March 1 1999 and May 1 1999. Say for example that there are less records where Co_Name has a value of Car then there are records with a value of Invoice, so logically I would set some kind of criteria to limit only invoices with where Co_Name = "Car". That's easy, I can return a result set of all the records Where Co_Name = "Car" and I can hold these in a view or a temp table. Now I need to query this View or temp table and see if it has any children records records Where Co_Name = "Invoice" . The problem is that the Invoice child could be a child record directly under the "Car" record, or 10 levels of children records down. The logic for this would be:
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Please don't give any speeches on Normal Relationship Database design suggesting a typical design using something like a Car table, a parts table, and a invoice table. I used the example above to demonstrate the dynamics of doing a search on a recursive relationship. I understand relationship theory and a recursive relationship is what we need to use in our situation.
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hi..
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Code:
Table: Supplier
Supp_ID
1
Table:Supplier_category
Supp_ID,StockCategoryID
1,56
1,57
1,90
How can i create a view that has columns like below:
Supp_ID, Stock
1,[56,57,90]
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Below is my sample data of my table named "Groups"
Code:
with Groups as (
select 1 as GroupId,'Oracle' as GroupName,0 as IdParentGroup union all
select 2 as GroupId,'Microsoft' as GroupName,0 as IdParentGroup union all
select 3 as GroupId,'IBM' as GroupName,0 as IdParentGroup union all
select 4 as GroupId,'SunMicrosystem' as GroupName,1 as IdParentGroup union all
select 5 as GroupId,'peoplesoft' as GroupName,1 as IdParentGroup union all
select 6 as GroupId,'mysql' as GroupName,1 as IdParentGroup union all
select 7 as GroupId,'Nokia' as GroupName,2 as IdParentGroup union all
select 8 as GroupId,'EShop' as GroupName,2 as IdParentGroup union all
select 9 as GroupId,'Meiosys' as GroupName,3 as IdParentGroup union all
select 10 as GroupId,'UrbanCode' as GroupName,3 as IdParentGroup )
select * from groups;
Expected result:
Code:
with ExpectedResult as (
select 'Oracle' as GroupName,'SunMicrosystem' as SubGroup union all
select '' as GroupName,'peoplesoft' as SubGroup union all
select '' as GroupName,'mysql' as SubGroup union all
select 'Microsoft' as GroupName,'Nokia' as SubGroup union all
select '' as GroupName,'EShop' as SubGroup union all
select 'IBM' as GroupName,'Meiosys' as SubGroup union all
select '' as GroupName,'UrbanCode' as SubGroup )
select * from ExpectedResult;
some sample query to how to achieve this parent-child has the same table.
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Why do we need a junction table in a many to many relationship? Why can't everything be in just 2 tables?
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I am fairly new to SQL and I am currently trying to createa SQL table (using Microsoft SQL) that has a recursiverelationship, let me try to explain:I have a piece of Data let's call it "Item" wich may again contain onemore "Items". Now how would I design a set of SQL Tables that arecapable of storing this information?I tried the following two approaches:1.) create a Table "Item" with Column "ItemID" as primary key, somecolums for the Data an Item can store and a Column "ParentItemID". Iset a foreign key for ParentItemID wich links to the primarykey"ItemID" of the same table.2.) create separate Table "Item_ParentItem" that storesItemID-ParentItemID-pairs. Each column has a foreign key linked toprimary key of the "Item" Column "ItemID".In both approaches when I try to delete an Item I get an Exceptionsaying that the DELETE command could not be executed because itviolates a COLUMN REFERENCE constraint. The goal behind these FK_PKrelations is is that when an Item gets deleted, all childItems shouldautomatically be deleted recursively.How is this "standard-problem" usually solved in sql? Or do I inned toimplement the recursive deletion myself using storedprocedures or something ?
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I want to create a 1-many relationship. Parent table has a primarykey, child table has no primary key. The child table does have anindex with all four fields of the parent's PK. How can I do this?Thanks, Bob C.
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For ex.
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constraints like
MatchID primary key
UserID_A <> UserID_B
unqiue index (UserID_A,UserID_B)
but I wish to exclude duplicated rows like 1,1,2 & 2,2,1,
cause UserA to UserB, and UserB to UserA are the same thing.
How can I get this?
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I am having challenge to update the redemption table from the multiple card activation table. I want to update the redemption table with the activation date closest to the redeem date.
For example: Redeem date 20071223, I need to update the top row Date, Year, Period fields from the Card activation table.
Redeem date 20071228, I want to refer to the second row in the Card activation table date 20071228.
Redeem date 20080316 or later, I want to use the last row in the card activation table date 20080316.
How to modify the update query to select the right activation row accordingly?
Below is my partial code I used but it always pick the 20071223 date to update my redemption table.
CREATE TABLE #Card
(
[CardNumber] varchar(20)
,[ Date] int
,[ Year] int
,[ Month] int
,[ Period] int
)
[Code] ....
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I've got a table that includes:CREATE TABLE [dbo].[Content] ( [Id] int IDENTITY(1, 1) NOT NULL, [ParentId] int NULL,
I'm wanting to make sure that a ParentId must be in the table as Id someplace else. When I try to do it by making it a foreign key get the error:
--------------- SQL ---------------
ALTER TABLE [dbo].[Content]ADD CONSTRAINT [Content_fk3] FOREIGN KEY ([Id]) REFERENCES [dbo].[Content] ([ParentId]) ON UPDATE NO ACTION ON DELETE NO ACTIONGO
---------- ERROR MESSAGE ----------
There are no primary or candidate keys in the referenced table 'dbo.Content' that match the referencing column list in the foreign key 'Content_fk3'.Could not create constraint. See previous errors.
Any ideas?
ALTER TABLE [dbo].[Content]ADD CONSTRAINT [Content_fk3] FOREIGN KEY ([Id]) REFERENCES [Content].[dbo] ([ParentId]) ON UPDATE NO ACTION ON DELETE NO ACTIONGO
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Mar 23, 2014
Below is my sample data of my table named "Groups"
with Groups as (
select 1 as GroupId,'Oracle' as GroupName,0 as IdParentGroup union all
select 2 as GroupId,'Microsoft' as GroupName,0 as IdParentGroup union all
select 3 as GroupId,'IBM' as GroupName,0 as IdParentGroup union all
select 4 as GroupId,'SunMicrosystem' as GroupName,1 as IdParentGroup union all
[Code] ....
Expected result:
with ExpectedResult as (
select 'Oracle' as GroupName,'SunMicrosystem' as SubGroup union all
select '' as GroupName,'peoplesoft' as SubGroup union all
select '' as GroupName,'mysql' as SubGroup union all
[Code] ....
How to achieve this parent-child has the same table.
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