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Jun 13, 2001

If we choose "truncate log on checkpoint", then we cannot backup the transaction. May someone tell me what's the difference between them and the advantage over the the other.

Thanks.
yatie

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Transaction Log Truncation

Sep 6, 2007



I have always assumed that when you backup a SQL Server database the transaction log is automatically truncated so that there is no need to explictly truncate it. It makes sense to me, you would not normally need logs from before the most recent backup. BOL, with all its talk about check points etc, seems to hint at this but I can't find an explicit statement to this effect.

Anyone?

Dick Campbell

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HI,

What I have set out to do is to try and truncate the transaction logs on my server instances after a nightly backup. I went ahead and used the shrink database option in the maintenance plan wizard. Unfortunately I have found this will only truncate the logs for databases using the simple database recovery model, and I wish to truncate the whole lot to save space...

I went ahead and put together an SSIS package that does the following:

1. First thing I do is build a fresh copy of a database listing in a temp table using the following SQL statement

USE Master;
Go
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GO

2. Next I read this dataset back into memory using a SQL statement as follows:

USE TempTables
GO
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I map the results to a results set called User::TableName (which is of an object data type)

3. Next the package goes to a ForEach Loop container and I use the Foreach ADO Enumerator Enumerator to read the data I just selected into the look. I select the User::TableName variable and use the enumeration mode 'Rows in first table'. I have used a variable mapping of Variable: User::TableName with an Index 0.

4. I then use the following SQL statement (which sits in the For Each Loop) to try and alter the recovery model:

ALTER DATABASE @TableName
SET RECOVERY SIMPLE;
GO
This is where the package falls over with the following error message

SSIS package "mnt_TransLog.dtsx" starting.
Error: 0x0 at Simple Mode: Incorrect syntax near '@TableName'.
Error: 0xC002F210 at Simple Mode, Execute SQL Task: Executing the query "ALTER DATABASE @TableName
SET RECOVERY SIMPLE;
" failed with the following error: "'RECOVERY' is not a recognized SET option.". Possible failure reasons: Problems with the query, "ResultSet" property not set correctly, parameters not set correctly, or connection not established correctly.
Task failed: Simple Mode
Warning: 0x80019002 at For Each Table Set to Simple: SSIS Warning Code DTS_W_MAXIMUMERRORCOUNTREACHED. The Execution method succeeded, but the number of errors raised (2) reached the maximum allowed (1); resulting in failure. This occurs when the number of errors reaches the number specified in MaximumErrorCount. Change the MaximumErrorCount or fix the errors.
Warning: 0x80019002 at mnt_TransLog: SSIS Warning Code DTS_W_MAXIMUMERRORCOUNTREACHED. The Execution method succeeded, but the number of errors raised (2) reached the maximum allowed (1); resulting in failure. This occurs when the number of errors reaches the number specified in MaximumErrorCount. Change the MaximumErrorCount or fix the errors.
SSIS package "mnt_TransLog.dtsx" finished: Failure.

I think the problem here is either I am not passing the variable across correctly (i.e. not declaring it or something..!) or I am passing the wrong type of variable across.

Once the recovery model is changed I can truncate the transaction logs successfully but I can€™t seem to until this is done! Any help in finding a solution to this problem or a better way of approaching this problem would be appreciated!

Thanks

Marek Kluczynski
Management Information Officer
Investors in People UK
7-10 Chandos Street
London
W1G 9DQ
Tel: 020 7467 1956

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Scenario:
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Problem:
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Question:
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Observation:
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BR
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Hi,



I have a data file that has numeric data that looks like:



1.123456



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As an experiment, I changed the destination column to a NUMERIC(18,0) - hoping that this would throw a truncation error at the flat file task level (where I have Truncation on all columns set to "fail component").



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