Mystery Full Backups Created
Jun 12, 2006
Has anyone seen this before?
Every Sunday morning (a different time each week) there is a full backup created for every database on the server. The backup is not a scheduled backup from any maintenance plan or SQL Agent job. The backup set is unrestorable and has a strange name in the format of 'DBNAME_00_12c95fb7_399d_41ce_9a0d_b5728b6a00ba_'
Because this backup is listed as the last full backup and will not restore, it is causing a problem with our disaster recovery plans as nothing will restore from this point forward to the next full backup.
Does anyone know how a backup record like this can get created, and/or how to find the source. The backups are listed in the backupsets table in msdb - are there other system tables that may hold some clues as to the source of these backups?
Any help or direction would be appreciated.
Thanks
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Nov 15, 2015
The space allocated to the Log in question is 180 GB. During this time period I was running TLog backups every 5 minutes, yet the log continued to chew through to 80 GB used, even after the process was complete and a final TLog backup had been taken. It continued to stay very large until the Full backup was complete -- or something else that I'm unaware of completed. Like every other DBA I typically take a TLog backup to shrink the log, but what appeared to be the case here was the Full completed and it released the used log space. All said, will Transaction Log backups not free up the log during Full backups?
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Jan 11, 2001
PLEASE HELP...
WE ARE DOWNLOADING THE BACKUP FILE FROM OTHER BRANCH OFFICE AND THE FILE SIZE IS GROWING LIKE HELL SO I AM CHANGING THE BACKUP POLICY TO DOWNLOAD THE DIFFERENTIAL BACKUP FILES EVERYDAY. BUT EVEN THE FILE SIZE GROWS DAY BY DAY UNTILL WE TAKE THE FULL BACKUP THERE. SO I WANT TO TAKE A DIIFERNETIAL BACKUP AND THEN IMMIDIATELY A FULL BACKUP AT THE REMOTE SERVER END. SO MY NEXT DIFFERNTIAL BACKUP WILL HAVE THE DATA OF ONLY PREVIOUS DAY.
FOR THIS I AM SCHEDULING A JOB WHICH FIRST TAKES A DIFFERENTIAL BACKUP AND THEN IMMIDIATELY FULL BACKUP EVERYDAY AT 12.00AM.
BUT I HAVE A CONCERN.. WHILE TAKING THE DIFFERENTIAL BACKUP ANY TRANSACTIONS THAT ARE TO BE COMMITED WILL NOT COMMIT UNTIL THE DIFFERENTIAL BACKUP COMPLETES. BUT IMMIDIATELY I AM STARTING FULL BACKUP. IS THERE ANY CHANCE THAT A TRANSACTION GETTING COMMITTED IN BETWEEN THESE TWO STEPS. IF SO IS THERE ANY WAY .. NOT RELEASE THE DATABASE UNTILL THESE 2 BACKUPS ARE COMPLETED?? I AM RUNNING IT AS A JOB..
ANY SUGGESTION??
THANKS IN ADVANCE.. :-)
KUMAR
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Apr 27, 2001
I have daily scheduled full backups of each database and log backups scheduled for every 2 hours. My question is should they be scheduled for overwriting or appending? I have always had them set as overwrite, but I don't know if that is correct? Any recommendations would be appreciated
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Mar 28, 2007
Does the full and differential backups have to be in the same location or can I do a once a week full backup on one drive and everyday differential backups on a different drive?
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Oct 23, 2015
I make two full backups on Oct 1 and Oct 10. I want to restore the server to a state in Oct 5. So I just do as follows:
1.Perform a transaction log backup on the server on Oct 23. I have never backup transaction log in the past.
2. Restore the server with Oct 1 full backup with NORECOVERY option.
3.Try to restore to the point at Oct 5 12:00, with the transaction log.
But the restore fails and SQL Server said the transaction log does not contain the point. The point is too early. Why? Also my .LDF file is about 13G, but the transaction log backup is only 200MB. Why?
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Apr 30, 2008
In what scenario – diff and full backups have same size? My guess is excessive fragmentation, any thoughts?
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Jan 14, 2008
But i have one issue bothering me, it will be great if someone can help me out on this
1. I take full backup on Monday 8 pm which ends at 9.30 PM
2. Diff Backup starts at 10 PM every 2 hrs till Tuesday 7.59 PM
3. Transactional Log backup is happening every 10 min till tueday 7.59 PM
Now when i restore it in the same order i get error that Log in the set is too late to apply. I have recemmonded by team to stop log backup on the time they start full backups and take transactional log backup only after differentials are restored. Now is this a correct suggestion???
Also appendin the differential backup is a good idea or overwriting them is a better approach if Database is backedup every night and Differential occurs every 2 hrs.
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Mar 21, 2008
I am running a full backup quarterly using "with init" to overwrite the existing file if it is still on the server. Then I run a differential back weekly using "with init". Finally I run a transaction log backup nightly using "with init".
My question is should I be using "with init" for the transaction log backup or allow it to accumulate until the next differential backup?
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May 12, 2008
Hi sql server experts.
This is a beginners question.
Let's say, I run a full backup at 4:30 am it takes usually 35 minutes to finish.
I want to schedule a differential backup to run every hour.
Should I start this job at 5:10 after the full backup finishes? or it doesn't matter?
I am confused about timing.
Let's say my full back up takes 1 hour to finish, that means that when the differential backup runs the full backup will be still running, so in case I need to restore the database, can I use this differential from 5:10 or the differential from 6:10.
Same issue with the transactional, the job runs every 30 minutes, should I started after the differential is done?
I am so confused, what happens with the backups jobs that run while other backups are running?
Is this something that should never happen.
Please advise.
Thanks
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Mar 16, 2001
Hi All,
Is there a way to suppress or re-direct the messages that result from a tran. log dump? We're running a tran. log dump every 15 minutes in prod. and the errorlog is really cumbersome to look at.
(In another RDBMS I worked with all backup messages went to a separate error/message log.)
TIA!
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I am in plan to implement following for backup of one of our database Enable Full recovery mode
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2- Create transaction log backup after every 25 min
as I am taking full backup every night, I think I can remove transaction log file backups at the time of full backup, as we can apply transaction log backup over full backup.My question is regarding removal of transaction log backups.
-Should I remove all transaction log backups and then execute full backup?
-Should I execute full backup and remove all transaction log backup older than 24Hrs ?
-Do I have to consider SCN or related info before deleting any transaction log backup ?
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Oct 23, 2015
I make two full backups on Oct 1 and Oct 10. I want to restore the server to a state in Oct 5. So I just do as follows:
Perform a transaction log backup on the server on Oct 23. I have never backup transaction log in the past. Restore the server with Oct 1 full backup with NORECOVERY option.Try to restore to the point at Oct 5 12:00, with the transaction log.
But the restore fails and SQL Server said the transaction log does not contain the point. The point is too early. Why? Also my .LDF file is about 13G, but the transaction log backup is only 200MB. Why?
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I make two full backups on Oct 1 and Oct 10. I want to restore the server to a state in Oct 5. So I just do as follows:
1.Perform a transaction log backup on the server on Oct 23. I have never backup transaction log in the past.
2. Restore the server with Oct 1 full backup with NORECOVERY option.
3.Try to restore to the point at Oct 5 12:00, with the transaction log.
But the restore fails and SQL Server said the transaction log does not contain the point. The point is too early. Why? Also my .LDF file is about 13G, but the transaction log backup is only 200MB. Why?
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Dec 4, 2007
Afternoon,
I have a few Log Shipped DBs that are working great.
Currently they are set to fire off every 15 minutes 24/7.
My question is this ... I need to get FULL backups of the source DBs in order to restore them on certain Dev boxes.
If I were to execute the full backup on one of these Log Shipped DBs ... how would it affect the log shipping process?
Is there a special method to accomplish this?
As a side note, what would be some concerns/issues if in being able to create the FULL backups and not interupt log shipping, I were to create the backup using a 3rd party tool like Quest LiteSpeed?
I sure wish we were on Enterprise, then I could create a mirror and then snapshot off it to create my backups BUT ... that is not the case as we stand today.
Thanks
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Do you just check that the SQL Agent job that runs the backup was successful?
Or do you search the SQL Server Error Log for entries like "Database backed up. Database: xxx" where database xxx is in an Availability Group?
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Regarding backups.
The first available time to do a full backup is at 11:00pm which also applies to diff. backups.
How often does the trans. logs need a back up?
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Hey All,
Hope this is the right place for this post.
I set up logshipping between two databases recently. everything looks fine. the backup, copy and restore jobs are all suceeding(from the job log). the problem is no Tlogs are being restored in secondary database. The restore job skips all the tlogs and says it did not find any tlog back up file to restore!! The jobs finishes with this:
007-07-17 14:40:30.59 Could not find a log backup file that could be applied to secondary database 'SaaSNet_dataStore'.2007-07-17 14:40:30.59 The restore operation was successful. Secondary Database: 'SaaSNet_dataStore', Number of log backup files restored: 02007-07-17 14:40:30.59 Deleting old log backup files. Primary Database: 'SaaSNet_DataStore'2007-07-17 14:40:30.59 The restore operation was successful. Secondary ID: '5808a414-2ada-41d2-a8a0-2cf84f85174a'
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DBCC execution completed. If DBCC printed error messages, contact your system administrator.
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