Background: Am working on completing an ORM that can not only handles CRUD actions -- but that can also updates the structure of a table transparently when the class defs change. Reason for this is that I can't get the SQL scripts that would work for updating a software on SqlServer to be portable to other DBMS systems. Doing it by code, rather than SQL batch has a chance of making cross-platform, updateable, software...
Anyway, because it needs to be cross-DBMS capable, the constraints are that the system used must work for the lowest common denominator....ie, a 'recipe' of steps that will work on all DBMS's.
The Problem: There might be simpler ways to do this with SqlServer (all ears :-) - just in case I can't make it cross platform right now) but, with simplistic DBMS's (SqlLite, etc) there is no way to ALTER table once formed: one has to COPY the Table to a new TMP name, adding a Column in the process, then delete the original, then rename the TMP to the original name.
This appears possible in SqlServer too --...as long as there are no CASCADE operations. Truncate table doesn't seem to be the solution, nor drop, as they all seem to trigger a Cascade delete in the Foreign Table.
So -- please correct me if I am wrong here -- it appears that the operations would be along the lines of: a) Remove the Foreign Key references b) Copy the table structure, and make a new temp table, adding the column c) Copy the data over d) Add the FK relations, that used to be in the first table, to the new table e) Delete the original f) Done?
The questions are: a) How does one alter a table to REMOVE the Foreign Key References part, if it has no 'name'. b) Anyone know of a good clean way to get, and save these constraints to reapply them to the new table. Hopefully with some cross platform ADO.NET solution? GetSchema etc appears to me to be very dbms dependant? c) ANY and all tips on things I might run into later that I have not mentioned, are also greatly appreciated.
I have 4 colums in a table Project, Sections,Tasks,Subtasks Each subtask will haven a row.
I need to write a trigger when I delete a task it needs to delete all the subtasks relating to it. When I delete a section it needs to delete all the tasks and subasks relating to it. similarly for project. This trigger for task-subtask works. CREATE TRIGGER "[Deletetasktrigger]" ON [Tbl] FOR DELETE AS SET NOCOUNT ON /* * CASCADE DELETES TO '[Tbl B]' */ DELETE [tbl] FROM deleted, [Tbl] WHERE deleted.[task] = [Tbl].[task] THis works fine. But when I do it for sections I get this error.
hello, once upon a time when i created my db (originally in access then used the conversion tool, which i now know is wrong!) i thought it would be an amazing idea to have cascading updates and deletes, however it turns out now this is exactly not what i want! if i leave them in then it throws errors when i delete records out of my stock table as related records are in the order_line table here is the code (well i think so, im not the best at sqlserver as you probably can tell already) that im using if anyone can help or point me in the right direction that would be great, thanks USE [nashdfDB1]GO/****** Object: Table [dbo].[tbl_stock] Script Date: 07/13/2007 02:52:14 ******/SET ANSI_NULLS ONGOSET QUOTED_IDENTIFIER ONGOSET ANSI_PADDING ONGOCREATE TABLE [dbo].[tbl_stock]( [Stock_ID] [int] IDENTITY(1,1) NOT NULL, [cat_id] [int] NOT NULL CONSTRAINT [DF__tbl_stock__cat_i__15502E78] DEFAULT ((0)), [sub_cat_id] [int] NULL CONSTRAINT [DF__tbl_stock__sub_c__164452B1] DEFAULT ((0)), [location] [int] NULL CONSTRAINT [DF__tbl_stock__locat__173876EA] DEFAULT ((0)), [n_or_sh] [varchar](50) NULL, [title] [varchar](255) NULL, [description] [varchar](255) NULL, [size] [varchar](50) NULL, [colour] [varchar](50) NULL, [cost_price] [decimal](9, 2) NULL CONSTRAINT [DF__tbl_stock__cost___182C9B23] DEFAULT ((0)), [selling_price] [decimal](9, 2) NULL CONSTRAINT [DF__tbl_stock__selli__1920BF5C] DEFAULT ((0)), [qty] [varchar](50) NULL, [date] [datetime] NULL CONSTRAINT [DF__tbl_stock__date__1A14E395] DEFAULT (getdate()), [condition] [varchar](255) NULL, [notes] [varchar](255) NULL, [visible] [bit] NULL CONSTRAINT [DF__tbl_stock__visib__1B0907CE] DEFAULT ((1)), [picture1] [varchar](50) NULL, [picture1_thumb] [varchar](50) NULL, [picture2] [varchar](50) NULL, [picture2_thumb] [varchar](50) NULL, [picture3] [varchar](50) NULL, [picture3_thumb] [varchar](50) NULL, [picture4] [varchar](50) NULL, [picture4_thumb] [varchar](50) NULL, [display_price] [varchar](50) NULL, [created_by] [varchar](50) NULL, [buying_in_recipt] [varchar](255) NULL, CONSTRAINT [tbl_stock$PrimaryKey] PRIMARY KEY CLUSTERED ( [Stock_ID] ASC)WITH (PAD_INDEX = OFF, STATISTICS_NORECOMPUTE = OFF, IGNORE_DUP_KEY = OFF, ALLOW_ROW_LOCKS = ON, ALLOW_PAGE_LOCKS = ON) ON [PRIMARY]) ON [PRIMARY] GO SET ANSI_PADDING OFF
I have three tables: BulkMemberHeader - which has a cascade delete on BulkMemberDetail of any related records BulkMemberDetail which has a DELETE trigger which gets the member ID from deleted and deletes the member record from the member table Member
This issue: > When I delete a record from BulkMemberDetail the trigger fires and deletes the record from the Member table as it should > If I delete a record from the BulkMemberHeader, all corresponding records in BulkMemberDetail are deleted, but the trigger to delete the record in the Member table does not seem to fire
Is it a limitation on SQLServer 2000 that does not allow triggers to fire in a scenario like this?
I have contract table which has built in foreign key constrains. How can I alter this table for delete/ update cascade without recreating the table so whenever studentId/ contactId is modified, the change is effected to the contract table.
Thanks
************************************************** ****** Contract table DDL is
create table contract( contractNum int identity(1,1) primary key, contractDate smalldatetime not null, tuition money not null, studentId char(4) not null foreign key references student (studentId), contactId int not null foreign key references contact (contactId) );
Recently I was in need of a hierarchical tree data. I learned about CTE and how they can be used to build hierarchical data with simple syntax. I used CTE and was through with the task. Later during free time, I tried to compare CTE approach with the traditional SQL 2K Table Function approach. It was surprising to see the query costs when I ran both the modes at one go...
Query Cost (relative to batch) : 0.49% Query Text : Select * From fn_GetTree(8);
Query Cost (relative to batch) : 99.51% Query Text : with treedata (id, parentid, status, prevStatus, lvl) as (select ...)
What does that indicate? Does it mean that the Table Function approach is much faster than CTE? I am sure that I was not making unwanted Joins in the CTE mode.
Can someone explain why that huge difference is there? And what the scenarios where CTE is better over Table Functions?
I have a Sql Server 2005 table with 3 fields, an ID field (primary key), a parent ID field, and Name. The parent ID references the ID field (foreign to primary - many to one) within the same table so that records can reference their parent. I would like to place a cascade delete on the ID field so that when the primary ID is removed it will automatically remove all those records with a parent ID that match. Sql server does not allow me to establish this cascade delete.I was considering a trigger instead but only know how tio use the AFTER paramter and not an alternative. Thanks
I am a C# programmer also acting as the dba for a SQL Server project. I have a table called Folder that has child records in a table called FolderItems. When a Folder is deleted I want the FolderItems to be deleted. I know how to accomplish via code, but I would prefer to have SQL Server perform the delete just in case a folder is deleted via SQL Management Studio or other method.
Is a trigger the way to go about this? I know how to create triggers For Delete, but I just wondering is this the best method to create a Cascade delete or does SQL have any built in "Cascade" delete features.
Helle people. The question is: I have two tables: Directories and SubDirectories. SubDirectories table has foreign key for DirectoryId. Now if I define this key with ON DELETE CASCADE attribute then in case of I delete a Directory record, all SubDirectory records will also be deleted. But if I have only one table Directories that have field named ParentId and in this field I save an Id of parent direcory. Can I define a parentId field as a foreign key to the same table and define it with ON DELETE CASCADE? Will it work too? Thanks
Hi, I have the following tables: Categories {Category_ID, Column2, ...} Articles { Article_ID, Category_FK, Column3, ...} Discussions {Discussion_ID, Article_FK, Column3, ...} Now, all what I have is just category_ID value (Let us say 3), how can I do cascade delete to delete category's record that its ID = 3 and delete all articles and all discussions that found in that category?
Is it possible to cascade update and delete while DRI remains there ? That is without deleteing refrential integrity. If anyone have example of cascade delete and Update using Pubs or Northwind Example , i'll be really obliged.
I am attempting to clarify how the cascade delete works. For example I have a Parent table and two child tables used for lookup that have the ID_FK = ID_PK from the Parent table.
tblUsers --------------- ID_PK Fname Lname ...
tblUser_Phone ---------------- ID_FK Phone ...
tbUser_Email ---------------- ID_FK Email ...
If I needed to delete all records from tblUser_Phone would this delete my USER entry from the parent table tblUsers if I have cascade delete enabled?
Hi all, I've been reading for a couple of weeks but this is my first question so please be gentle with me.
I'm pretty new to SQL Server, though I've worked with Access for years. I've got four tables (I'm simplifying) and I need to set up cascade deletes between them. I understand how to create foreign keys and all that, but SQL Server is telling me it can't create my keys because it will create multiple cascade paths. I understand that too, I just need to find a way around it. Here are the tables...
dbo.JOBS Job_Number
dbo.COLUMNS JOBS_Job_Number Column_Number
dbo.ROWS JOBS_Job_Number Row_Number
dbo.GRID_DATA JOBS_Job_Number Column_Number Row_Number Data
Currently I have keys set to cascade delete between JOBS>COLUMNS and JOBS>ROWS so that when the user deletes a job, the columns and rows for that job are deleted as well. No problem there.
If the user deletes a column, I have to delete all the grid data for that column and job. Same with rows. So I tried to establish cascade deletes between COLUMNS>GRID_DATA and ROWS>GRID_DATA and that's where I got in trouble. I assume the reason is that if the user deletes a job, it's going to delete the columns and rows, and I've got multiple cascade paths coming from COLUMNS and ROWS to GRID_DATA. I get it.
The question is, what can I do about it? I don't have a cascade delete between JOBS>GRID_DATA, although I do want that behavior, but I was assuming it just would flow through COLUMNS or ROWS. I haven't bothered to add that key as I'm guessing that would just make the situation worse. Anyone got any advice for me on this one?
Hi. I am trying to log (Not SQL Transaction log) all deleted rowsinto a custome log file after performing "cascade delete".I couldn't find any reference for this in SQL manual or News group.Byung Choi
Hi, I have a Configuration Table tblConfig with 45 fields- PK_Config_Id ConfigCreatedOn ConfigEditedOn ConfigStartDate ConfigEndDate ConfigFor ¦. ¦. ¦.
And an Employee table tblEmployee PK_Emp_Id EmpName ¦. ¦. ¦.
I would create a Configuration and then apply this config to some Employees So, I created a table tblEmployee_Config with 2 fields FK_Config_Id FK_Emp_Id
But I MAY need to change(Edit) few of the properties(fields) of the Configuration record associated to an emp. Therefore I need all the fields of tblConfig table along with employee key in tblEmployee_Config So, I modified tblEmployee_Config to FK_Emp_Id FK_Config_Id ConfigCreatedOn ConfigEditedOn ConfigStartDate ConfigEndDate ConfigFor ¦. ¦. ¦. i.e. putting all the fields of the tblConfig into tblEmployee_Config along with emp key
But instead of having 2 almost similar tables (tblConfig and tblEmployee_Config), I merged both the tables into 1 table having Configurations as well as Employees associated to Configs as PK_Config_Id FK_Emp_Id FK_Config_Id ConfigCreatedOn ConfigEditedOn ConfigStartDate ConfigEndDate ConfigFor ¦. ¦. ¦. Where FK_Emp_Id and FK_Config_Id would be NULL for Configurations.
Here record 1 is a Configuration and records 2 and 3 are Emps records that are associated to Config 1.
Now my question is 1. Is it correct if I put a relation like Primary key Foreign Key tblEmployee_Config tblEmployee_Config PK_Config_Id FK_Config_Id
2. Can I perform cascade delete on the same table tblEmployee_Config such that When record 1 is deleted, records 2 and 3 should also get deleted because they refer to the first record?
I Use SQL Server 2005 Express edition. I have a few tables, which are inter-related. For e.g. I have a project table (ProjectID, Name, ...)
I also have a Project invoice table, in which ProjectID is referred as Foreign key.
Now, I want all the rows in Project invoice (child) table table to be deleted (for a particular ProjetID), if I delete the coresponding ProjectID in Projects (parent) table. If I use the 'on delete set null' or 'on delete cascade' constraint, only the ProjectID (in child table) is nullified whereas rest of the columns have data.
Is there any way out, where the whole ROW (not just that field) is deleted? Or, is it that this can be achieved only by some stored procedure / external program?
Imagine the following scenario: two tables (say, "requests" and "details") are joined in a 1:n relationship on MSSQL 2008. Both tables contain an ID (autoincrement field) and a timestamp field for proper concurrency management. Data access in the frontend is provided by a typed dataset in VS 2010. There are SPs on the server which select, update, insert or delete data in each of the two tables (so, 8 SPs alltogether: uspRequestsSelect, uspDetailsInsert etc.). These SPs are used for data access in the dataset. The GUI is a Windows form with 2 datagridviews, one for request datatable and one for the child-relation-based datatable FK_request_details. So, each request shows its details. The form works well so far.
Now, trouble strikes. A business rule says: "the first details row of a request (=row with lowest ID) always has a 0 in column "additional fee". For additional detail rows, this field has to be set to constant value 45". In short: the first detail row of each request is free, second and later details are charged 45 β¬.
So, I created a SP "uspRequestFeeManager", which recalculates all (!) detail rows of a request. This SP is called in uspDetailsInsert, uspDetailsUpdate and uspDetailsDelete, as each of this cases causes the additional fee to be recalculated for all rows (as rowcount can change). In Management Studio, this works as well!
But: as the uspRequestFeeManager changes data even for rows the user did NOT touch, there's a concurrency exception in my frontend in the following case:
In a request with 2 detail rows (first row has fee = 0, second = 45), the user deletes the row with fee = 0. Committing via TableAdapterManager calls uspDetailsDelete, which calls uspRequestFeeManager, which sets the remaining single details row to a fee value of 0 (which is correct!). This causes TableAdapterManager.UpdateAll to fail ("concurrency exception; delete command has handled 0 of 1 expected records"), as uspRequestFeeManager has "edited" a row which the user didn't touch, and thus updated its timestamp as well. So, the list is out of sync.
The uspRequestFeeManager looked like a good idea... but it seems not to be.
Approach would be: instead of calling the uspRequestFeeManager from within the SP, call it programmatically after TableAfterManager.UpdateAll, and after that, 're-fill' the details datatable with the updated data. But that would transfer business logic from server to client. I don't like that...
Hi, I have a database which saves data about bus links. I want to provide a information to passenger about price of their journay. The price depends on three factors: starting busstop, ending busstop and type of ticket (full, part - for students and old people, ...). So I created a table with three foreign key constraints (two for busstops and one for type). When the busstop is deleted or type of ticket I want all data connected with it to be deleted automatically. I wanted to use cascade deleting. But I receive a following exception: Introducing FOREIGN KEY constraint 'FK_TicketPrices_BusStops1' on table 'TicketPrices' may cause cycles or multiple cascade paths. Specify ON DELETE NO ACTION or ON UPDATE NO ACTION, or modify other FOREIGN KEY constraints. How can I achieve my task? Why should it cause cycles or multiple cascade paths?
I'm using Management Studio Express, is there a way to find out what relationships of a database have cascade delete set to true? Also is there a way to change the settings (properties) of a relattionship without having to delete it and add it back?
I am developing an application with ASP .NET 2.0 using SQL Server 2005. I have a very detailed set of relational tables I would like to use to store my data, however I would like to use the built in Membership functionality of .NET 2.0.What I've done is created MembershipProvider that on user creation links the aspnet_Users table to my custome User table.UserFK guid aspNetId int userIdI then use my own userId to link into other data which uses their PKs to link to other tables, etc, etc like any good relational DB should.My question is when I delete a user using the ASP .NET interface I get a contraint error because my User table references the aspnet_Userts.UserId. I initially wanted to toss Cascade On Delete on my tables which would take care of my problem. I was shocked to find out Sql Server 2005 doesnt support Cascades.. and its suggested that Triggers be used instead (ill durned if im gonna make triggers for all my tables)My question is, what is the best practice in deleting from tabled linked with PK/FK relationships? There MUST be a good way to handle this.thanks
I've been handed a database with over 100 tables and told to find everywhere a cascade delete constraint exists. I could just go through every table by hand and check, but I think there must be an easier way, perhaps an sql query on the master db. Any thoughts?
I cannot execute my sql to create a table with ON DELETE CASCADE option.Here is my sql:CREATE TABLE Employees (Name Text(10) not null, Age number,CONSTRAINT pkEmployeesPRIMARY KEY (Name)); <--- This is ok!CREATE TABLE CanTake (Name Text(10) not null, Make Text(10) not null,CONSTRAINT pkCanTakePRIMARY KEY (Name, Make),CONSTRAINT fkCanTakeFOREIGN KEY (Name) REFERENCES EmployeesON UPDATE CASCADE <--- MS-ACCESS says 'syntax error'ON DELETE CASCADE);When I didn't include ON UPDATE CASCADE ON DELETE CASCADE in sql, it works(but that's not what I want). Why? Could anyone suggest me?Thank you.--Message posted via http://www.sqlmonster.com
I have a SQL Mobile DB that I am having problems with deletes cascading via foreign keys to delete all child records. The DB is on a WIndows CE5 device that is running a C#.net application.
The are three tables in my DB that relate to this issue (Tests, TestRawInfo, and TestRawData). The Tests table is the main table. TestRawInfo is a child table of Tests and has a foreign key defined that references the Tests primary key (the relationship is 1:1 with the Tests table). TestRawData is a child table of TestRawInfo and has a foreign key defined that references the TestRawInfo primary key (The relationship is 1:many with the TestRawInfo table). All foreign keys are defined with a Cascade on delete. When I delete one or more records from the Tests table I expect the delete to cascade so that all child records are also deleted. Not all the data gets deleted from the TestRawData table, this results in orphan records. I only see a failure however the next time I attempt to compact the database.
Interestingly I can reproduce the problem by opening my Mobile DB in SQL 2005 on my Desktop and deleting data from the Tests table. If however, I add additional records to these tables through SQL 2005 before attempting to delete, the delete works as expected.
Do you have any ideas on what is going on here? Has any one else reported a similar issue? My current work around is to delete data directly from child tables and not rely on the foreign keys to cascade the deletes.
I want to use "on delete cascade" in one of my tables but I'm worried though whether this can affect the performance when having millions of records. To explain more I'm working on a social networking website and I have two tables UserAccounts, in which I only keep the username and password and a few related fields, and Profiles in which I keep the profile data for users, I want to be sure that I won't have any records in the Profiles table without corresponding records in the UserAccounts table. Please see the DDL below to understand more the structure of the tables:
CREATE TABLE UserAccounts ( UserID INT NOT NULL IDENTITY(1,1) PRIMARY KEY, UserName VARCHAR(20) NOT NULL, Password VARCHAR(20) NOT NULL, --other fields (e.g. last login .. etc) )
CREATE TABLE Profiles ( UserID INT NOT NULL REFERENCES UserAccount(UserID), -- other fields (e.g. birthdate, nationality .. etc) )
Hi All, I have the following db design: a Primary table say CityTable CityId Pk CityName
SectorTable SectorID CityID FK to CityTable SectorName
MuncipalTable MunicipallD CityID FK to CityTable MuncipalName
CantonmentTable CantonmentlD CityID FK to CityTable CantonmentName
The CityId can spread across multiple tables. I would like to delete the record from CityTable if all references of CityId have been removed. For e.g CityTable CityId: 1, 2 CityName: Pune, Mumbai
So If I delete SectorID 1a, the CityTable should not delete its record since SectorID 2a and MuncipalID 2c and 3c are still referencing it. But If delete all the records from SectorTable and MuncipalTable referencing CityID 1 then the record from CityTable should get deleted. How can I achieve this using a SP? Please help.
Hello I need to be able to regularly, update or delete data from my parent table and subsequent child tables from A to Z, each table contains data. However, I have having problems. I have already created the tables with primary keys on each table and foreign keys linking each table to the next. I tried to delete a row from the parent table and was given this error: DELETE FROM [dbo].[DomNam]WHERE [DomNam]=N' football ' Error: Query(1/1) DELETE statement conflicted with COLUMN REFERENCE constraint 'FK_DomNam'. The conflict occurred in database 'DomDB', table 'Dom_CatA', column 'DomNam'.
I tried to insert an alter table query: ALTER TABLE dbo.DomNamADD CONSTRAINT FK_Dom_ID REFERENCES dbo.Dom_CatA (Dom_ID) ON DELETE CASCADE ON UPDATE CASCADE But on Execute I saw this error: Error] Incorrect syntax for definition of the 'TABLE' constraint What is wrong with the above syntax? Or would it be better if I used a trigger instead because I already have foreign keys set within the tables?If so please give an example of the syntax for the trigger I would need to update and cascade data from all tables. I would be grateful for any advice. Thanks.
I have a table that contains two foreign keys of two different tables. I want to build a relationship so that when either primary keys deleted in the two tables, the record in the table should be deleted. But, SQL Server does not allow me to save the relationship, it complains that the circling delete might exist. I do not know why, how can I solve this?
Table A: ID ProductID <foreign key> CustomerID <foreign key>
Table Product ProductID <primary key>
Table Customer CustomerID <primary key>
I want to cascade delete the record in Table A when either the ProductID is deleted from Product table or the CustomerID is deleted from Customer table.
Hi, I have a self-referencing table, something like Emlplyee-Manager. I want to implement the cascading delete in this table. So when I delete a manager than all the employees should be deleted at ANY level below the manager. I do not have DRI for the Foreignkey (manager)!!! My problem is that the trigger fires only one time (for the "sons") and not for the "grandsons" and below. I've used the following flags: - nested triggers (in "SQL Server Properies", "Server settings" tabsheet) - recursive triggers (database "Properties", "Options" tabsheet) I've combined this 2 flags: 1. nested flag reset and recursive flag reset 2. nested flag reset and recursive flag set or 3. nested flag set and recursive flag reset 4. nested flag set and recursive flag set The results are the following: -for case 1, 2 and 3 the same results: the trigger fires just for the first level (the sons are deleted but the grandsons remains there orphan) -for case 4 I have the following error message: "Maximum stored procedure nesting level exceeded (limit 32)" so I can't delete anything at all.
Any idea why the trigger doesn't fire for "grandsons" and below? Could be that this above mentioned flags doesn't works for self-referencing tables ?