Order Of Joins

Jan 5, 2007

i have below sql with several joins. Under sql 2000 should it be assumed that sql will create the best plan for however you set the joins or is there an order when using left joins to follow

select p.account_id, p.sex, p.other_id_number,
ltrim(rtrim(upper(p.last_name))) + ', ' + ltrim(rtrim(upper(p.first_name))) as pat_name,
pe.create_timestamp as enc_date, loc.location_name, l.ngn_status, l.sign_off_person,
l.sign_off_date,
ltrim(rtrim(upper(pr.first_name))) + ' ' + ltrim(rtrim(upper(pr.last_name))) as signoff_name,
ltrim(rtrim(upper(prv.first_name))) + ' ' + ltrim(rtrim(upper(prv.last_name))) as prov_name,
r.req_accession, l.ufo_num, r.spec_rcv_date_time, r.date_time_reported,
r.test_desc, x.abnorm_flags, x.obs_id, x.result_desc, x.ref_range, x.units,
x.observ_value, c.comment_text
from patient p
inner join patient_ p1 on p1.account_id = p.account_id
inner join patient_encounter pe on pe.account_id = p.account_id
inner join location loc on loc.location_key = pe.location_id
inner join lab_nor l on l.enc_id = pe.enc_id
inner join provider prv on prv.provider_id = l.ordering_provider
left outer join profile pr on pr.user_id = l.sign_off_person
inner join p_lab_results_obr r on r.ngn_order_num = l.order_num
inner join i_lab_results_obx x on x.unique_obr_num = r.unique_obr_num
left outer join i_lab_results_comm c on c.unique_obr_num = r.unique_obr_num
and c.obr_seq_num = r.seq_num
and c.obx_seq_num = x.obx_seq_num

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Order Of Joins

Jun 2, 2008

Hi -

I have a general question about the order of joins. I have noticed that in some of the queries I am looking at, there are lots of LEFT and RIGHT Joins one after the other. My question is which table is considered the LEFT or RIGHT or original table if there are 9 or so joins after it?



For example, if a query says
select ORD.orderID, ORD.CustomerID, EMP.employeeID, SOX.AugitID
FROM Dbo.employees EMP
INNER JOIN
dbo.orders ORD
On
emp.employeeid=ORD.employeeid
LEFT OUTER JOIN
dbo.Customers CUST
ON CUST.CustomerID=ORD.CustomerID
RIGHT OUTER JOIN
SOX.Audit.ID
ON ORD.OrderID = SOX.Audit.ID

the query INNER JOINS Employee and Orders table, but for the LEFT and RIGHT joins, is the Original FROM dbo.Employees EMP always considered the original table from which a LEFT JOIN is done, and if so is the RIGHT OUTER JOIN, the SOX table, taking the JOIN on the original FROM Table FROM Dbo.employees EMP, or from the table preceding the RIGHT OUTER JOIN, the Customers table. This is a simple example, but these queries have one table after another for about 9 - 15 joins (RIGHT, LEFT, etc.). Whatever applies to the simple query above, I will take to the more complex ones.

Thanks -

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go
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