Problems Running Two Diff Backups
Jul 13, 2007
we have MS SQL 2005 Standard and we have setup Maint. Plans with the SQL Server Management Studio front end.
i didn't set this up, so if it's completely crazy, i'm just the messenger :)
we have two maintenance plans:
maintenance plan A (to generalize) runs its full back up, then generates its differential backups and transactional logs.
then maintenance plan B runs its full back up and generates differential backups on a second drive without transactional logs.
what appears to happen with this is MS SQL will only let us restore from the most recent differential, so if maintenance plan B's differential ran last, it renders maintenance plan A's differentials essentially useless.
the reason it was setup this way was that in theory, we wanted A to backup to one drive and B to backup to a drive that gets rotated for offsite backup.
if we're breaking diff backups, this isn't optimal. anyone have a better method for creating backups on primary backup drive and a swap out drive?
thanks
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Apr 30, 2008
In what scenario – diff and full backups have same size? My guess is excessive fragmentation, any thoughts?
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Jan 14, 2008
But i have one issue bothering me, it will be great if someone can help me out on this
1. I take full backup on Monday 8 pm which ends at 9.30 PM
2. Diff Backup starts at 10 PM every 2 hrs till Tuesday 7.59 PM
3. Transactional Log backup is happening every 10 min till tueday 7.59 PM
Now when i restore it in the same order i get error that Log in the set is too late to apply. I have recemmonded by team to stop log backup on the time they start full backups and take transactional log backup only after differentials are restored. Now is this a correct suggestion???
Also appendin the differential backup is a good idea or overwriting them is a better approach if Database is backedup every night and Differential occurs every 2 hrs.
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Apr 16, 2004
I'm having difficulties copying a production DB to a new computer using backup files. The production computer had tempdb on the D: drive, the new computer is much smaller and only has a C: drive. I've successfully restored the Master DB backup but now the database will only start with the (-F) parameter. I know how to Alter the DB to move the tempdb, but I cann't get the DB to start while Tempdb is pointed to the D: drive
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Aug 9, 2007
I run two different types of backups on the same database.
A monthly full and nightly diffs appending to the same full file - file 'A'
A weekly full with 10 min trans log backups appending to same file - file 'B'- during working hours.
2 strategies, 2 backup files.
These are new strats that have gone live this week - tuesday in fact. The monthly and weekly both ran fine on tuesday as did the nightly diff and all the TS backups througout the day. last night - Weds - the nightly diff failed with the following error:
"
Executed as user: <USERNAME>. Cannot perform a differential backup for database "objectstore", because a current database backup does not exist. Perform a full database backup by reissuing BACKUP DATABASE, omitting the WITH DIFFERENTIAL option. [SQLSTATE 42000] (Error 3035) BACKUP DATABASE is terminating abnormally. [SQLSTATE 42000] (Error 3013). The step failed.
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Whilst the error is perfectly legible I dont understand what its implying - cant I add multiple Diff backups to the same full backup OR is my weekly / 10 mins on the same database (but to a diff backup file) ballsing things up for me somehow? If this is the case how come everything ran fine on tuesday night?
Any help gets beers.
THanks
Alastair Jones.
"A computer once beat me at chess - but it was no match for me at kick boxing" - Emo Phillips.
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Sep 10, 2007
I backup a database at the begining of each month with a full and then do nightly diffs on it.
For the same database I run daily fulls and 10 minute log backups.
these two backups create / append to two different backup files.
The problem im having is that I cant restore the Differential backup set. SQL seems to restore the full just fine but alwasy throws an error when its about to start to retore the last diff. now forgive me but I clicked OK on the message and I cant find any record of the error in the logs but its something like:
"SQL cannot restore the database as the database has not been restored to the previous correct state"
is my 10 min TS log backups screwing up the DIff chain somehow?
this is really doing my head in. any help appreciated.
"A computer once beat me at chess - but it was no match for me at kick boxing" - Emo Phillips.
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Feb 28, 2008
Regarding backups.
The first available time to do a full backup is at 11:00pm which also applies to diff. backups.
How often does the trans. logs need a back up?
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Mar 11, 2003
My backups are running 5-6 hours on SQL2000. I'm sure they only used to take 1 hour or so. On another server, backing up the same database (both about 50 gig), the backup only takes 45 min - 1 hour. What can I look at to see why it's taking so long ?
(edit) I'm using a maint plan to backup to disk
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Jul 20, 2005
I've got a server (SQL 2K, Win2K) where the backupshave started running long.The database is a bit largish -- 150GB or so. Up untillast month, the backups were taking on the order of4 to 5 hours -- depending on the level of activity on theserver.I'm using a T-SQL script in the SQLAgent to run thebackups. Native SQL backup to an AIT tape drive.Now, for no apparent reason, the backups are takingon the order of 24 to 26 hours. The backups completesuccessfully -- no errors, just taking an outrageouslylong time to complete. DBCCs check out AOK, noproblems with the database.No changes to the machine. No hardware changes. Nosoftware changes. Weird.Multiple tape media have been tried -- it's not a caseof a tape going bad.We've had no problems with this box for almost 4years. Now it's gettin' jiggy with us!Any ideas on where to start with this one?Thanks in advance.
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Hi,
I plan to use Log Shipping on SQL 2000 to have warm standby database. I understand current procedure but have a question wether I can do full normal backups of my database server without screwing up my Log Shipping process? Also can I do transaction log backups as well (separate from the ones used for log shipping)?
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The space allocated to the Log in question is 180 GB. During this time period I was running TLog backups every 5 minutes, yet the log continued to chew through to 80 GB used, even after the process was complete and a final TLog backup had been taken. It continued to stay very large until the Full backup was complete -- or something else that I'm unaware of completed. Like every other DBA I typically take a TLog backup to shrink the log, but what appeared to be the case here was the Full completed and it released the used log space. All said, will Transaction Log backups not free up the log during Full backups?
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Hi,
i have 3 fields: start_inspect_datetime, end_inspect_datetime, Diag_Hrs.
so i want to get the difference of start and end datetime=Diag_Hrs.
here i am using the below stored proc.
but i am getting only the hours or minutes or seconds.
so how to get the hours(if diff>59 mins),minutes(if diff>59 sec),seconds.
for Ex: here diff=185 sec. then Diag_hrs should be 3 hours,0 mins, 5 secs.
so how we'll get this.
pl help me out asap.
Thanx
reddy
select Asset_Diag_Hrs= DATEDIFF(hh,start_inspect_datetime,end_inspect_dat etime) from asset_diag_trans_table
--where Gpc_no=@GPC_no
--select Asset_Diag_Hrs=(datediff(mm,start_inspect_datetime ,end_inspect_datetime)) from asset_diag_trans_table
-- where Gpc_no=@GPC_no
select Asset_Diag_Seconds=(datediff(ss,start_inspect_date time,end_inspect_datetime) ) from asset_diag_trans_table
where Gpc_no=@GPC_no
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Oct 24, 2000
Can i restore a diff. backup alone without a complete backup?
(what i am trying is this.....there are two different servers at two diff. places....i need to have both servers in sync. at all times.modifications will take place in one server and the modifications have to be reflected in the other server.i could not go for replication as the servers cannot be connected.sending complete backups daily will be a overhead .hence planning to take complete backup once and send diff. backups alone on subsequent days to the other server.
how can i achieve this?)
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Mar 22, 2006
Dear all
I am new to the MS SQL, my problem is as follows.
I am having a online database on sql 2k.
every 15 days we have to give payout from our system, so we
have a offline server in our office, we take the complete backup of that day & restore the same on the offline server,
& start the payout process.
The problem is that the full backup is a big file & take a lot of time for downloading from online server.
is it possible that we take on diff. backup of that day & will restore the same on the offline server so the file will take less time to download.
but my offline backup is 15 days old, will that update all the records or not?
regards
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SQL Web Assistant: Web task not found. Verify the name of the name for possible errors.
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I have a handful of jobs that I need to troubleshoot, but this one will hopefully give me enough insight to do the rest myself. I need to figure out why a Maintenance Plan that performs a Diff Backup on 4 databases, and then a transaction log back up on the 4 databases is failing. I just get the following error message, and I cannot tell what failed.
Executed as user: <SERVER_NAME>SYSTEM. ... 9.00.3042.00 for 32-bit Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 1984-2005. All rights reserved.
Started: 11:20:05 AM
Progress: 2008-01-03 11:20:05.95
Source: {SOME_STUFF_WAS_HERE}
Executing query "DECLARE @Guid UNIQUEIDENTIFIER EXECUTE msdb..sp".: 100% complete
End Progress
Progress: 2008-01-03 11:20:06.35
Source: Back Up Database (Differential)
Executing query "EXECUTE master.dbo.xp_create_subdir N'D:Program F".: 100% complete
End Progress
Progress: 2008-01-03 11:20:06.35
Source: Back Up Database (Differential)
Executing query "EXECUTE master.dbo.xp_create_subdir N'D:Program F".: 100% complete
End Progress
Progress: 2008-01-03 11:20:06.37
Source: Back Up Database (Differential)
Executing query "EXECUTE master.dbo.xp_create_subdir N'D:Program F".: 100% complete
End Progress
Progress: 2008-01-03 11:20:06.37
Source: Back Up Database (Differential) ... The package execution fa... The step failed.
How can I find out how to fix this problem? And please let me know if I am doing something wrong. (For instance, perhaps those two tasks shouldn't be together.)
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Country1
Country2
2006
2007
% diff
2006
2007
% diff
Segment1
80
90
12.50%
60
50
-16.67%
Segment2
150
120
-20.00%
80
100
25.00%
Total
230
210
-8.70%
140
150
7.14%
I need a to build a result as shown above in matrix, many countries will be in resultset and each country performance is evaluated based on previous year. (90-80)/80=12.50%. the problem is this year and segment values are calculated based on aggregate functions and is derived by means of specific formaule. for country1 in year 2006 for segment1 the value 80,90 is arrived by using sum(leadtime*Ordervalue)/sum(Ordervalue).
So i cannot store these current and previous year values for calculating the % bymeans of custom code, runningvalue cannot be used as the formulae already has an aggregate, is there any direct way to locate the cell references just like excel R1C1 with matrix? if so then i can refer the cells for calculating my %. please help.
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My goal is to add a diff into a query that grabs data from 2 different tables.
The code:
SELECT
MIN(TableName) as TableName,
ID1, COL1, COL2, COL3, COL4, COL5, COL6, COL7, COL8
,COL9, COL10, COL11, COL12, COL13, COL14, COL15, --COL16,
COL17, COL18, COL19, COL20, COL21
FROM
(
SELECT 'Table A' as TableName,
SessionID as ID1,
StartDateCode as COL1,
StartTimeCode as COL2,
EndDateCode as COL3,
EndTimeCode as COL4,
HandledByCode as COL5,
DispositionCode as COL6,
DNISCode as COL7,
CallServiceQueueCode as COL8,
ApplicationCode as COL9,
IVREndPointCode as COL10,
BankCode as COL11,
TotalQueueTimeSS as COL12,
TotalAgentTalkTimeSS as COL13,
TotalAgentHoldTimeSS as COL14,
TotalAgentHandleTimeSS as COL15,
--TotalIVRTimeSS as COL16,
AfterHoursFlag as COL17,
SourceSystemID as COL18,
anubisTransferExtNumber as COL19,
anubisEndPoint as COL20,
AccountNumber as COL21
from [pdx0sql45].Rubicon_Marts.dbo.INB_Call_Fact
where startdatecode between 2738 and 2769
UNION all
SELECT 'Table B' as TableName,
SessionID as ID1,
StartDateCode as COL1,
StartTimeCode as COL2,
EndDateCode as COL3,
EndTimeCode as COL4,
HandledByCode as COL5,
DispositionCode as COL6,
DNISCode as COL7,
CallServiceQueueCode as COL8,
ApplicationCode as COL9,
IVREndPointCode as COL10,
BankCode as COL11,
TotalQueueTimeSS as COL12,
TotalAgentTalkTimeSS as COL13,
TotalAgentHoldTimeSS as COL14,
TotalAgentHandleTimeSS as COL15,
--TotalIVRTimeSS as COL16,
AfterHoursFlag as COL17,
SourceSystemID as COL18,
anubisTransferExtNumber as COL19,
anubisEndPoint as COL20,
AccountNumber as COL21
from pdx0sql04.Rubicon_Marts.dbo.INB_Call_Fact
where startdatecode between 2738 and 2769
) tmp
GROUP BY ID1, COL1, COL2, COL3, COL4, COL5, COL6, COL7, COL8
,COL9, COL10, COL11, COL12, COL13, COL14, COL15, --COL16,
COL17, COL18, COL19, COL20, COL21
HAVING COUNT(*) = 1
ORDER BY 2,1
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Is it possible to add a command into the query to output diff/compare scenario?
Thanks in advance for any help.
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Restore failed for Server 'HSVMMICROFIT'.
Details : System.Data.SqlClient.SqlError: The operating system returned the error '5(Access is denied.)' while attempting 'RestoreContainer::ValidateTargetForCreation' on 'C:Program FilesMicroFitHealthStar v6.0 Server EditionDataMICROFIT_HealthStar_Data.mdf'.
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