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I hv dropped the useless columns for a table but the table size is remain unchanged by executing sp_spaceused. pls advise how to release table spaces.

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[ItemAnswer2] [varchar](1) NULL,
[ItemComments2] [text] NULL,
[ItemAnswer3] [varchar](1) NULL,
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[ItemComments4] [text] NULL,
[ItemAnswer5] [varchar](1) NULL,
[ItemComments5] [text] NULL,
[ItemAnswer6] [varchar](1) NULL,
[ItemComments6] [text] NULL,
[ItemAnswer7] [varchar](1) NULL,
[ItemComments7] [text] NULL,
[ItemAnswer8] [varchar](1) NULL,
[ItemComments8] [text] NULL,
[ItemAnswer9] [varchar](1) NULL,
[ItemComments9] [text] NULL,
[ItemAnswer10] [varchar](1) NULL,
[ItemComments10] [text] NULL,
[ItemAnswer11] [varchar](1) NULL,
[ItemComments11] [text] NULL,
[ItemAnswer12] [varchar](1) NULL,
[ItemComments12] [text] NULL,
[ItemAnswer13] [varchar](1) NULL,
[ItemComments13] [text] NULL,
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[ItemComments14] [text] NULL,
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[ItemAnswer16] [varchar](1) NULL,
[ItemComments16] [text] NULL,
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[ItemComments17] [text] NULL,
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[ItemComments3] [varchar](max) NULL,
[ItemAnswer4] [char](1) NULL,
[ItemComments4] [varchar](max) NULL,
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[ItemAnswer6] [char](1) NULL,
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[ItemComments7] [varchar](max) NULL,
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[ItemComments9] [varchar](max) NULL,
[ItemAnswer10] [char](1) NULL,
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[ItemComments13] [varchar](max) NULL,
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