Select With Nolock Has Calculation Risk??
Apr 8, 2008
Hi all,
I just read this article. The kind of select is called dirty read.
So select with nolock might have inaccurate result...? PLEASE COMMENT ON THIS. I am using it to count some huge tables, and has problem on the result..
http://www.4guysfromrolla.com/webtech/101100-1.2.shtml
NOLOCK
Using NOLOCK politely asks SQL Server to ignore locks and read directly from the tables. This means you completely circumvent the lock system, which is a major performance and scalability improvement. However, you also completely circumvent the lock system, which means your code is living dangerously. You might read the not-necessarily-valid uncommitted modifications of a running transaction. This is a calculated risk.
For financial code and denormalized aggregates (those little counters of related data that you stash away and try desperately to keep accurate), you should play it safe and not use this technique.
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Mar 11, 2008
Hi, I get an error when select * from a table with nolock....please help.
Cannot specify an index or locking hint for a remote data source
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May 29, 2007
Hi Sql gurus :))I've got a question that I couldn't find a satisfying answer on the net.What is the difference between:1) running sql query (select from sth with nolock) with no transaction2) running sql query (select from sth) withing a TransactionScope with option Read Uncommitted dataBasically, both should do the same work. However is anyone aware of any potential problems using any of both approaches ?We use 1) to improve our web application scalability since the system works in such a way that any selects and updates on that table (sth) do not interfere with one another.However, updates are done in a TransactionScope. And when having simultaneous select with nolock and update in a Transaction scope (the select statement has a where clause and returns records that are not updated by the update statement). However sometimes ( we still cannot figure it out when) the select statement returns some records twice.For example, the select should return 1000 records , but (sometimes) it returns 1002 records ( the extra 2 records are copies of some of the original 1000 records).Removing the nolock, makes the problem does not appear - but i want to be 100% sure that nolock is our troublemaker. And if it is - why ?We also have a problem that this particular nolock select sometimes return even less records than it should.I know it sounds impossible but it happens.So anyone who has experience with select with nolock, please share :)Thanks in advance, Yani
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Sep 6, 2006
I am trying to do a calculation where I show the [YesEmail] / [TotalCustomers]. It wont let me do it unless i do two queries. Is there a way to put this all in this select statment.
Code:
SELECT customer_lifetime_totals.occurrence_1_store_no as [StoreNo],
COUNT( case when customer.email_address IS NULL then 1 end) as [NoEmail],
COUNT( case when customer.email_address IS NOT NULL then 1 end) as [YesEmail],
COUNT(customer.customer_no) AS [TotalNewCustomers]
FROM customer_lifetime_totals INNER JOIN
customer ON customer_lifetime_totals.customer_id = customer.customer_id
WHERE (occurrence_1_transaction_date > CONVERT(DATETIME, '2006-08-01 00:00:00', 102))
GROUP BY customer_lifetime_totals.occurrence_1_store_no
ORDER BY customer_lifetime_totals.occurrence_1_store_no
This works ... but only when i put the previous query in a temp table and then run another query referring to it.
Code:
cast(100*(cast(YesEmail as float) / TotalNewCustomers) as numeric (5,2)) as [Percent]
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Nov 4, 2015
I want to calculate the Total_Cost and get the result of the formula from SELECT Query. Following is the formula of Total_Cost. I have declared variables for formula. How I can create SELECT/RUN query successfully for mathematical calculation to calculate the Total_Cost.
--Formula of Total_Cost = [min (price, Pay1) x Interest1 + max (min (price - Pay1, Pay2), 0) x Interest2 + Max ((price - Pay2), 0) x Interest3, LMT]
declare @price numeric(18,7)=255550
declare @Pay1 numeric(18,7)=645500
declare @Pay2 numeric(18,7)=235000
declare @Interest1 numeric(18,7)=0.05500
declare @Interest2 numeric(18,7)=0.03533
declare @Interest3 numeric(18,7)=1.00000
declare @LMT numeric(18,7)=10000.00
Select [min (@price, @Pay1) x @Interest1 + max (min (@price - @Pay1, @Pay2), 0) x @Interest2 + Max ((@price - @Pay2), 0) x @Interest3, LMT] as Total_Cost
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May 2, 2008
Hi,
Any help with this would be great. I have SQL tables all in the following format:
ID_PRODUCT,
ID_MARKET,
ID_BUCKET,
ID_COLLECTION,
ID_MEASURE,
MEASURE_VALUE
Now each table holds different measures e.g. 326, 229 & 278. I would like to subtract the measure_value of 229 from 278 and then add the measure_value from 278 from this. e.g
(326-229) + 278 = new measure_value.
This is for each id-product where the following 3 conditions meet:
the ID_PRODUCT, ID_MARKET AND ID_BUCKET match. Im lost, any help would be great.
thanks
Jay
p.s this what i have started with at the moment as a test however it dont work.
SELECT ID_PRODUCT,
ID_MARKET,
ID_BUCKET,
ID_COLLECTION,
ID_MEASURE,
MEASURE_VALUE
FROM (SELECT TOP 100 PERCENT dbo.DPOUT_EXCEPTIONS_326.ID_PRODUCT,
dbo.DPOUT_EXCEPTIONS_326.ID_MARKET,
dbo.DPOUT_EXCEPTIONS_326.ID_BUCKET,
dbo.DPOUT_EXCEPTIONS_326.ID_COLLECTION,
dbo.DPOUT_EXCEPTIONS_326.ID_MEASURE,
dbo.DPOUT_EXCEPTIONS_326.MEASURE_VALUE + DBO.DPOUT_LSBP_229.MEASURE_VALUE as 'MEASURE_VALUE'
FROM dbo.DPOUT_EXCEPTIONS_326 INNER JOIN dbo.dpout_lsbp_229 on
dbo.dpout_exceptions_326.id_product = dbo.dpout_lsbp_229.id_product
where dbo.DPOUT_EXCEPTIONS_326.ID_PRODUCT = dbo.dpout_lsbp_229.id_product
and dbo.DPOUT_EXCEPTIONS_326.ID_MARKET = DBO.DPOUT_LSBP_229.ID_MARKET
and dbo.DPOUT_EXCEPTIONS_326.ID_BUCKET = DBO.DPOUT_LSBP_229.ID_BUCKET)
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Mar 21, 2006
Use the view master.sys.sql_logins (new in 2005) to get at the varbinary passwords like you did in your Sql Server 2000 scripts (instead of using passwords from master.dbo.sysxlogins).
I have altered the sp_help_revlogin (from Microsoft article # 246133 )
PLEASE TEST/FIX before you use this:
if exists (select * from dbo.sysobjects where id = object_id(N'[dbo].[sp_help_revlogin_2005]') and OBJECTPROPERTY(id, N'IsProcedure') = 1)
drop procedure [dbo].[sp_help_revlogin_2005]
GO
SET QUOTED_IDENTIFIER OFF
GO
SET ANSI_NULLS OFF
GO
CREATE PROCEDURE sp_help_revlogin_2005 @login_name sysname = NULL AS
DECLARE @name sysname
DECLARE @logintype char(1)
DECLARE @logindisabled int
DECLARE @binpwd varbinary (256)
DECLARE @txtpwd sysname
DECLARE @tmpstr varchar (256)
DECLARE @SID_varbinary varbinary(85)
DECLARE @SID_string varchar(256)
IF (@login_name IS NULL)
DECLARE login_curs CURSOR FOR
SELECT sid, name, type, is_disabled FROM master.sys.server_principals
WHERE name <> 'sa' and type in ('S','U','G')
ELSE
DECLARE login_curs CURSOR FOR
SELECT sid, name, type, is_disabled FROM master.sys.server_principals
WHERE name = @login_name
OPEN login_curs
FETCH NEXT FROM login_curs INTO @SID_varbinary, @name, @logintype, @logindisabled
IF (@@fetch_status = -1)
BEGIN
PRINT 'No login(s) found.'
CLOSE login_curs
DEALLOCATE login_curs
RETURN -1
END
SET @tmpstr = '/* sp_help_revlogin_2005 script '
PRINT @tmpstr
SET @tmpstr = '** Generated '
+ CONVERT (varchar, GETDATE()) + ' on ' + @@SERVERNAME + ' */'
PRINT @tmpstr
PRINT ''
PRINT 'DECLARE @pwd sysname'
WHILE (@@fetch_status <> -1)
BEGIN
IF (@@fetch_status <> -2)
BEGIN
PRINT ''
SET @tmpstr = '-- Login: ' + @name
PRINT @tmpstr
IF (@logintype = 'G' OR @logintype = 'U')
BEGIN -- NT authenticated account/group
IF @logindisabled = 1
BEGIN -- NT login is denied access
SET @tmpstr = 'EXEC master..sp_denylogin ''' + @name + ''''
PRINT @tmpstr
END
ELSE BEGIN -- NT login has access
SET @tmpstr = 'EXEC master..sp_grantlogin ''' + @name + ''''
PRINT @tmpstr
END
END
ELSE IF (@logintype = 'S')
BEGIN -- SQL Server authentication
SELECT @binpwd = password_hash FROM master.sys.sql_logins WHERE SID = @SID_varbinary
IF (@binpwd IS NOT NULL)
BEGIN -- Non-null password
EXEC sp_hexadecimal @binpwd, @txtpwd OUT
SET @tmpstr = 'SET @pwd = CONVERT (nvarchar(128), ' + @txtpwd + ')'
PRINT @tmpstr
EXEC sp_hexadecimal @SID_varbinary,@SID_string OUT
SET @tmpstr = 'EXEC master..sp_addlogin @loginame = ''' + @name
+ ''', @passwd = @pwd, @sid = ' + @SID_string + ', @encryptopt = ''skip_encryption'''
END
ELSE BEGIN
-- Null password
EXEC sp_hexadecimal @SID_varbinary,@SID_string OUT
SET @tmpstr = 'EXEC master..sp_addlogin @loginame = ''' + @name
+ ''', @passwd = NULL, @sid = ' + @SID_string
END
PRINT @tmpstr
END
END
FETCH NEXT FROM login_curs INTO @SID_varbinary, @name, @logintype, @logindisabled
END
CLOSE login_curs
DEALLOCATE login_curs
RETURN 0
GO
SET QUOTED_IDENTIFIER OFF
GO
SET ANSI_NULLS ON
GO
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THIS = IIF([B]=0,0,[Measures].[A]/[Measures].[B]);
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Mar 9, 2005
I need some help to under stand when the right time is for NOLOCK. I work in a small dev group and NOLOCK seams to be a buzz word and others are throwing it in all over for no apparent reason.
I read the thing from http://www.sql-server-performance.com/ and I am sure that our web and SQL servers are about 100x over sized for the application. While are ASP.Net (VB) app may demonstrate some hesitation from time to time I am more inclined to blame poor VB.Net coding techniques before slow SQL. The point being the NOLOCK is being added to SELECTS that are not part of a transaction and were using the SQL data adapter to return datasets or single column values.
Also I am not even sure it’s being used correctly. The OLM has the example:
SELECT au_lname FROM authors WITH (NOLOCK)
However I am seeing it formatted like this:
SELECT au_lname FROM authors (NOLOCK)
I am by no mean an expert, I follow what I read in books or from examples from others. And I have never read in a book go crazy with NOLOCK because it’s the bomb!
Any thoughts? I am trying to learn as much as I can before I raise my hand and say this might be a bad idea.
Thanks
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Jan 29, 1999
Other than "dirty" reads, what are the cons of using NOLOCK throughout a query?
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Mar 7, 2001
Hi,
I have a job that runs 3 seperate DTS packages.
The first step imports a file and runs successfully.
The second step which is the 2nd DTS package is hanging in the execute mode until I manually stop the job. Apparently,We discovered a bulk insert that is blocking a select statement--both proccesses are within this second DTS package. I tried using the WITH (UNLOCK) on the tables but this DTS package is still failing.
Does anyone have any suggestion? It would be greatly appreciated.
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Mar 4, 2004
Hi guys,
I am a new user for DB2.
In DB2 V8, i have a table with some no of columns.
table test
col1
col2
col3
col4
Now i want to issue a query like this.
select col1 from test with(NOLOCK) where col1 = <some value>
when i am executing this query on that time i am getting a error message like this...
SQL0158N The number of columns specified for "MT.TEST" is not the
same as the number of columns in the result table. SQLSTATE=42811
Anyone can help me???
i tried to find out.
I did the same thing with SQL server 2000.
I am not facing any problem there.
Thanks & Regards,
Muthu
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Jun 6, 2006
Paul Randal,
There has been a discussion/debate going on this thread about the benefits and drawbacks of using the NOLOCK hint:
http://www.sqlteam.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=67294
It occurred to me that you might know more about this than any of us, or at least be able to point us to a white paper or knowledge base article that explains the subject in more detail. Any light you can shed on the subject would be a big help.
CODO ERGO SUM
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Jan 8, 2008
is really helpful use "with (nolock)" sentence in selects??
100% useful?? disadvantages?
best regards
Joseph
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Jun 2, 1999
Hello,
Does anyone know if you place NOLOCK after a view in a select statement, if the effects trickle down to the tables in the view? Or does one have to add NOLOCK to each table within the view?
Thanks
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Jun 23, 2004
Hello !!
I'm using the sentence NOLOCK for selects, but I have many sentences, Is there any way to set a parameter in the DBMS, to use NOLOCK parameter by default ???? I mean, I don't like to lock any table for selects.
Is It possible ???? How to do It (step by step) ?
Thanks !!
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Nov 1, 2005
Hey guys,
I came across a SQL statement, thought up by a developer, in which two views were joined with the NOLOCK hint:
SELECT v1.xxx, v2.yyy
FROM dbo.vw_SomeView v1 WITH (NOLOCK)
INNER JOIN dbo.vw_SomeOtherView WITH (NOLOCK) ON v1.id = v2.id
The views are not created the NOLOCK hint. So my question is: has the NOLOCK hint any effect here?
I've looked in the BOL and searched on the net but can't find anything on this particular topic.
Lex
PS. Personally I don't like to use views in JOINs. I've seen too many cases in which tables are joined twice just because they are part of both views. Further more I don't like the "random" use of NOLOCK because most people don't seem to understand the implications of it. But this is besides the point of my question ;)
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Apr 5, 2006
I'm running a heavy SELECT query using WITH (NOLOCK). This still causes other processes trying to INSERT in one of the tables to get blocked.
I thought the locking hint would prevent from blocking other processes?
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Mar 31, 2008
What will happen if I'm running a query with the NOLOCK hint but the SQL Server has run out of resources?
Thanks!
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May 12, 2008
Hi,
I was sreading about NOLOCK that it could prevent deadlocks but could return data which is not committed yet.
1) Should we use NOLOCK with select statements
2) If the transaction isolation level is set appropriately (e.g. Serializable)in the component (for e.g COM+ component) but NOLOCK is specified in the select then would it return uncommitted data. I mean if the transaction is controlled at hihger level then what will be the Pros and Cons of using NOLOCK.
Thanks
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Aug 12, 2013
What is the purpose of using WITH(NOLOCK)?
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Dec 28, 2007
Hi!
select * from rubberstock_tbl_shoppingcarttemp
It dosent take datas from the table but
select * from rubberstock_tbl_shoppingcarttemp (nolock)
This querey takes the data from the table
what can i do to retrieve records through first query.I dont know what
is happening please explain and also dont know about nolock
Thanks in advance!
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Feb 25, 2008
When the NOLOCK hint is included in a SELECT statement, no locks are taken when data is read. This gives a Dirty Read in a result set.
The data retrieved in the select statement may not be correct since some other process might have updated the data while it was taken in the select statement.
Now, Can I know what is the use of NOLOCK? In which way we can make efficient use of NOLOCK ???
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Mar 30, 2008
Hi,
I have never used NOLOCK, or ROWLOCK, or anything of that sort. It's something I thought was over my head when I first encountered it and as I am gaining a better grip on SQL I have decided I want to try and tackle it. Also, because I think its causing me some problems :)
I recently implemented a new query into my application.
The query below gets the COUNT(*) of certain tables. Some of these tables are tall (5 million plus rows)
The counts returned are not absolutely critical information, and we are not joining or doing any other transactions based on this data. I believe running these counts on these pretty active tables (selects,inserts) are possibly causing slowdowns ?
Would using NOLOCK be an appropriate situation for something like this ? I am looking for a performance increase hopefully, and hoping there isnt much of a downside? I'm also not sure what type of reliability to expect from NOLOCK.
Any help much appreciated !!
Thanks once again
mike123
create PROCEDURE [dbo].[select_UserStats_Admin_TEST]
(
@userID int
)
AS SET NOCOUNT ON
DECLARE @Mail_Sent INT, @Mail_Received INT, @Comments_Sent INT, @Comments_Received INT,
@friendsListCount INT
SELECT @Mail_Sent = count(*) FROM tblMessage WHERE messageFrom = @userID
SELECT @Mail_Received = count(*) FROM tblMessage WHERE messageTo = @userID
SELECT @Comments_Sent = count(*) FROM tblComment WHERE CommentFromID = @userID
SELECT @Comments_Received = count(*) FROM tblComment WHERE CommentTo = @userID
SELECT @friendsListCount = count(*) FROM tblFriends WHERE userID = @userID
SELECT @Mail_Sent as Mail_Sent, @Mail_Received as Mail_Received, @Comments_Sent as Comments_Sent,
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Feb 17, 2006
Hi,Is there a way to catch every select comming to sql and change it toselect with nolock?or how to make database READ UNCOMMITTED permanent?any ideas?Richard
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Jul 20, 2005
I am getting lot of deadlocks in my application. As it is very complexti avoid deadlocks at this stage of application we have done few stepsto lessen the impact.We have added retries after deadlock is capturted.We have added select * from TABLE with (nolock) wherever possible.But interestingly second step is not working. I have few simple selectstatements where i am using nolock criteria still I am gettingdeadlock victim error. Any idead why it happening. I thought as soonas I put nolock in the query it will ignore all the locks.My sp isCREATE procedure sp_Check_denomination@supply_till_idint,@product_codechar(4),@iso_currency_codechar(3),@denominationmoneyasdeclare @product_id numeric(5)select @product_id = product_id from product with (nolock) whereproduct_code = @product_codeif exists (select *from transaction_inventory TI with (nolock),product_ccy_denom PCD with (nolock)where TI.supply_till_id = @supply_till_idand TI.product_id = @product_idand TI.iso_currency_code= @iso_currency_codeand TI.denomination = @denominationand TI.product_id = PCD.product_idand TI.iso_currency_code = PCD.iso_currency_codeand TI.denomination = PCD.denominationand PCD.product_id=@product_idand PCD.denomination = @denominationand PCD.iso_currency_code=@iso_currency_codeand PCD.tradeable = 1)beginreturn(1)endelsebeginreturn(0)endGO
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Jul 20, 2005
Background:I am currently working on a mission critical web based applicationthat is accessed 24 hours a day by users from just about every timezone. We use MS SQL Server as our database and we have lots ofproblems with time-outs. We used to have lots of problems with locksuntil my management decided that we would use the WITH (NOLOCK) hinton EVERY select statement and WITH (ROWLOCK) on EVERY updatestatement. I have argued since the beginning that the NOLOCK hintshould be the exception and not the rule. Meanwhile we continue tohave problems related to time-outs.Problem:I'm the one that they call when there are time-out errors.I am a programmer first and a DBA when I have to be. I'd really liketo hear from some of you who are the opposite. I realize that thereare many factors that contribute to slow response from a databaseserver (indexes, RAM, disk speed, etc.), but what I really need tohear from an expert is whether or not using NOLOCK on **EVERY** queryin a 30GB database that has 344 tables is a bad idea.Thanks in advance,Stephen McMahonJoin Bytes!
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Dec 5, 2007
Is the NOLOCK optimizer hint being deprecated? Or does this apply only to use of NOLOCK in UPDATE and DELETE statements or what exactly?
I can see that in this article that there are circumstances in which the hint is deprecated; however, I have developers that are acting like NOLOCK is about to be dropped entirely. As far as I know, that is not the case but I would definitely like some feedback on this.
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