Surrogate Or Composite Key?

Aug 21, 2004

The orininal design of my db (part of it...) is the following

A JOB has a Number and a Description.
Each JOB can have one or two TASKS (min one, max two). Each TASK is identified by the JOB it belongs to and an Index (unique only for the same JOB).
Each TASK has one an only one set of INFO1, one and only one set of INFO2, one and only one set of INFO3 etc.

A: JOB (JobNum [PK], JobDescription, ...)
B: TASK (JobNum [PK] [FKa], Index [PK], TaskDescription, ...)
C: INFO1 (JobNum [PK] [FKb], Index [PK] [FKb], ...)
D: INFO2 (JobNum [PK] [FKb], Index [PK] [FKb], ...)

(There is a reason to keep INFO1, 2 and 3 separate, because eachof them will be linked to different table. This might influence the answer to my real question.)

First of all, I wouldn't add any surrogate key for TASK, not to loose the logic behind; plus I'd put an ined on JonMum only, being Index equal to 1 or 2 only, so not selective.

The real question is about INFO1 (and 2, 3 etc.) table: should I leave JobNum and Index as PK (consider that the PK of INFo1 will be used as FK for another table), or should I use a surrogate key, like for eaxmple

C: INFO1 (Info1ID [PK], JobNum [FKb], Index [FKb], ...)

I don't really like this solution. Actually I'd prefer the following

C: INFO1 (Info1ID [PK], ...)

where Info1ID = JobNum + Index (+ = string concatenation).

Any suggestion?
Thanks

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My previous post was not really clear, so I'll try again with a (hopefully) better (even if longer) example...

Consider the following...

A JOB describes the processment of a document.
Each document can exist in two versions: English and French.
A JOB can have 1 or 2 TASK, each describing the processement of either the English or French version.
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B: TASK (JobNum [PK] [FKa], Version [PK], Priority, ...)

that is there is an identifying 1:M (where maxium allowed for M is 2) relationship between JOB and TASK; TASK being identified by JobNum and Version (where the domain for Version is {E, F}).

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Each TASK may require a TYPING sub_task.
Each TASK may require a DISTRIBUTION sub_task.

For example, for a given doc, the English TASK requires TRANSLATION and DISTRIBUTION, while the French only DISTRIBUTION.

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D: TYPING (JobNum [PK] [FKb], Version [PK] [FKb], DueDate, ...)
E: DISTRIBUTION (JobNum [PK] [FKb], Version [PK] [FKb], Copies, ...)

As you can see I am using the PK of TASK as FK and PK for each of the three SUB_TASKs.

To complicate things, each SUB_TASK has one or more assignments. The assignments for each SUB_TASK records different information from the others.
So we have...

A: JOB (JobNum [PK], DocReference, StartDate, EndDate, ...)
B: TASK (JobNum [PK] [FKa], Version [PK], Priority, ...)

C: TRANSLATION (JobNum [PK] [FKb], Version [PK] [FKb], DueDate, ...)
D: TYPING (JobNum [PK] [FKb], Version [PK] [FKb], DueDate, ...)
E: DISTRIBUTION (JobNum [PK] [FKb], Version [PK] [FKb], Copies, ...)

F: TRA_ASSIGN (JobNum [PK] [FKc], Version [PK] [FKc], Index [PK], Translator, ...)
G: TYP_ASSIGN (JobNum [PK] [FKd], Version [PK] [FKd], Index [PK], Typyst, ...)
H: REP_ASSIGN (JobNum [PK] [FKe], Version [PK] [FKe], Index [PK], Pages, ...)

that is there is an identifying 1:M relationship between each SUB_TASK and its ASSIGNMENTs, each ASSIGNMENT being identified by the SUB_TASK it belongs to and an Index.

I wish I could send a pic of the ER diagram...

Maybe there is another and better way to model this: if so, any suggestion?

Given this model, should I use for TRANSLATION, TYPING and DISTRIBUTION a surrogate key, instead of using the composite key, like for example:

C: TRANSLATION (TranslationID [PK], JobNum [FKb], Version [FKb], DueDate, ...)
D: TYPING (TypingID [PK], JobNum [FKb], Version [FKb], DueDate, ...)
E: DISTRIBUTION (DistributionID [PK], JobNum [FKb], Version [FKb], Copies, ...)

this will "improve" the ASSIGNMENTs tables:

F: TRA_ASSIGN (TranslationID [PK] [FKc], Index [PK], Translator, ...)
G: TYP_ASSIGN (TypingID [PK] [FKd], Index [PK], Typyst, ...)
H: REP_ASSIGN (DistributionID [PK] [FKe], Index [PK], Pages, ...)

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A: JOB (JobNum [PK], DocReference, StartDate, EndDate, ...)
B: TASK (TaskID [PK], JobNum [FKa], Version , Priority, ...)

C: TRANSLATION (TaskID [PK] [FKb], DueDate, ...)
D: TYPING (TaskID [PK] [FKb], DueDate, ...)
E: DISTRIBUTION (TaskID [PK] [FKb], Copies, ...)

F: TRA_ASSIGN (TaskID [PK] [FKc], Index [PK], Translator, ...)
G: TYP_ASSIGN (TaskID [PK] [FKd], Index [PK], Typyst, ...)
H: REP_ASSIGN (TaskID [PK] [FKe], Index [PK], Pages, ...)

I don't really like this second solution, but I'm still not sure about the first solution, the one with the surrogate key only in the SUB_TASks tables.

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I'm just now learning both SQL and ASP.NET, and I cannot seem to figure out how to build my data structure.  I believe the answer to my problem is a composite key, but I cannot seem to get it to work.  Here is an example.  My database is of recorded dances, with exact locations within a ballroom.  I believe I need 2 tablesTable #1 - DanceTableColumns: DanceID, Name, Description, TagsTable #2 - StepsTableColumns DanceID, StepID, longLocation, latLocation, Action, DescriptionWithin my ASP.NET application I want to be able to enter data about a dance, including metadata and a series of steps.  The Dance and metadata content to be stored in DanceTable, and the series of moves stored in the StepsTable.  I want the steps to be IDed as 1, 2, 3, 4...x with the first step being labled 1. and I want each dance to have it's own unique ID (DanceID).  Right now I'm using "ExecuteNonQuery()" to add my data to my SQL database, and when I add new steps to the StepsTable SQL just finds the largest ID within StepID and increments it by one.  So my steps are labeled as:Dance1:Step1, Step2, Step3, Step4Dance2:Step5, Step 6, Step7What I really want is (or I think what I want is) is a composite primary key.Dance1:Step1, Step2, Step3, Step4Dance2:Step1, Step2, Step3That way the StepID is used as both a primary key and it indicates the position within the dance.  I guess I could just use a standard SQL table, let SQL auto generate StepID's and then add a new column called something like "StepNumber", but it just seems goofy to be generating a stepID and never using it.  With composite keys (If I understand them) each step would have a unique key as a combination of the DanceID+StepID (AKA Dance 345, steps 1-10). I pull up data by searching for dances, and then sort by StepNumber, and those should all be unique...if I can figure out how to build them.

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Hi folks, i need an advise.

I've a gerand table customers_orders table with customer_id and order_id.
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