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I am new to SQL Server 7 and have inherited a server built by a consultant that is no longer here. I have noticed that the system databases (master, msdb & model) are completed backed up on a nightly basis and are all set with truncate log on checkpoint. Is this the proper way to have things set up?


Thanks.

Mike

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PS This links

http://blogs.msdn.com/lcris/archive/2005/09/23/473464.aspx

http://blogs.msdn.com/lcris/archive/2005/07/08/437048.aspx

http://blogs.msdn.com/lcris/archive/2005/09/30/475822.aspx

http://blogs.msdn.com/lcris/archive/2006/04/10/572678.aspx

and all relative topics in BOL were studied very carefully



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