Transactional With Updateable Subscription And Log Shipping
Mar 8, 2007
We have a database set up for transactional replication with an updateable subscription. When we add log shipping to the publication database (sending the logs to a separate server) the publication and subscription entry show up in Management Studio's replication folder on the log ship target server (although the definitions are correct).
Is this configuration legitimate? Can I add log shipping to the subscription database as well?
Thanks... Liston
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Mar 6, 2007
Will Sql Express handle being a subscriber for an updateable transactional publication from Sql Server 2005?
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Jul 11, 2006
Hello,
We have two updateable subscribers and a publisher using transactional replication. The distributor is located on publisher. Currenetly all 3 sites are SQL 2000 SP3. We plan to upgrade all sites to sp4 with minimum downtime (if possible zero). Is it possible to upgrade publisher/distributor first and subscribers after few days?
Thanks,
np70
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Oct 28, 2006
Replication Type: Transactional With Updateable Subscriptions
SQL Server Version: SQL Server 2005 Enterprise Edition
Publisher, Subscriber1 and Subscriber2 all on same SQL Server
Problem: I am trying to set up a transactional replication with two updateable subscriptions. All three databases are a carbon copy of each other. Every table to be replicated contains an identity key column. I've been asked to create the replication without assigning separate identity ranges for the publisher and the updateable subscriptions. In other words they want a continous ID range. Can this be done without managing identity ranges programatically outside of SQL Server itself?
Example:
Publisher inserts into table test1 in database1. This creates ID 100 for the record. ID 100 replicates to Subscriber1 (database2) and Subscriber2 (database3).
Subscriber1 and 2 identity seeds are then incremented to ID 100. So far, all three databases have the same identity seed in table test1. Subscriber1 inserts into table test1 in database2. This creates ID 101 for the record. ID 101 is replicated to Subscriber2 (database3) and to the publisher (database1).
Subscriber2 identity seed is then incremented to ID 101. However, the Publisher retains it's original identity seed of 100.
Insert into Publisher table test1 will fail since it will try to insert the identity seed of 101 which is taken.
I have tried identity range management Automatic and Manual. Both seem to have some limitations in managing identity seeds unless different identity ranges are assigned for publisher and subscriber.
Can someone recommend a solution to this problem? Can this be done natively in SQL Server 2005 replication. Or can some recommend another approach to make this work?
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Feb 14, 2003
Does anyone have advice as choosing between merge replication and updatable subscriptions? I've read the documentaion, they seem to offer the same functionality, and I don't see any clear guidelines as to why to pick one over the other...any suggestions would be appreciated!
Ed
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Mar 5, 2007
I am using RMO to synchronize an updateable transactional pull subscription from Sql Express SP2 to Sql Server 2005 64-bit Standard Edition. The data propogates from the server to the client, but changed data on the client does not replicate to the server. Any ideas?
Thanks!
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Nov 19, 2004
I'm a complete newb at this. Boss man said, "Here, replication isn't working. Fix it."
So, best I can determine, we had a subscription, but it looks like it got disowned. Trying to delete the subscription gives me a "The subscription on the Subscriber doesn't exist."
I need to delete the subscription to set up a new transactional replication process. Or at least, spending a day hugging on the SQL server has made me think so. I'm running MsSQL 2K. I've tried to screw with it what ways I could glean with the EM, but I'm not getting anywhere. That and I can't find a freaking thing on error 20017 except "It don't exist, buddy."
Here's the skinny:
We have the entire customer Database on Server A. We take 2 fields from the A and replicate them per transaction to B which the Radius server runs off of. (This helps reduce traffic because we keep the A server at the office while the radius server and B server are across town). :(
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Jan 5, 2005
I have setup a pull subscription on the subscriber for transactional replication. The distribution job continues to run, but doesn't do anything because it says: The initial snapshot for publication 'man4' is not yet available.
How can I tell if the snapshot is running, and can I see the snapshot where it was created?
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Aug 6, 2007
Hello,
My company is moving to a SQL Server-based packaged application early next year. We€™re planning our SQL Server architecture but have some questions that I can€™t readily find answers for. I€™m hoping someone here can point me in the right direction.
We have three servers, I€™ll call them A, B, and C. We want to duplicate all changes to certain databases on server A to server B, then duplicate changes to selected databases and tables on server B to server C.
Ideally we€™d run SQL Server 2005 Enterprise Edition on all three servers, but the packaged application vendor does not support SQL Server 2005 yet, only SQL Server 2000. Our license agreement with them does not allow us to use replication on server A. We€™re free to do whatever we want on our other SQL Servers, but server A must sit alone, untouched, like a monolith on a far-away moon. (I€™m lobbying to have the server named Tycho, or TMA2.) Stranger still, they€™re OK with log shipping from server A to other servers. We€™ve tried to explain that replication and log shipping are both core function built into SQL Server, and that if one is acceptable, then both should be. Their fear is that replication could cause performance and stability problems, and to eliminate this possibility they€™re ruling out replication on server A.
Given these constraints we€™re resigned to using SQL Server 2000 Enterprise Edition on servers A and B, and SQL Server 2005 Enterprise Edition on server C. We plan on periodically shipping logs from server A to server B and applying them at server B.
We€™d like to know if it is possible to also use transactional replication on server B to duplicate changes from server B to server C. I€™ve used log shipping and replication in the past, but never at the same time. My understanding is that a database goes into recovery mode while a transaction log is being applied and that any user changes to the database after the log has been applied will cause later log applications to fail. The scripts I€™ve seen that are used to apply the transaction logs put the database into single user mode after the log has been applied to prevent this.
This raises a few questions:
If we try to RESTORE a log to a database being used as a source for transactional replication articles, will the RESTORE fail? Or will the RESTORE start and break the transactional replication? I€™ll test this on my own, but it€™d be nice to know if anyone has already experienced this.
Is it possible for us to have a database in read-only mode serve as the source for transactional replication articles? (I can€™t imagine why not, ever though it seems counter-intuitive - why would you want to replicate transactions from a database that has no transactions?)
If the answer to number two is yes, can we suspend transactional replication on a database, RESTORE a log to the database, put the database into read-only mode after the RESTORE, and restart the replication on the database?
Thanks in advance for sharing your wisdom, everyone!
--
Thomas C. Mueller
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Feb 2, 2007
Hi,
We are Using Transactional Replication with Updatable Subscription in SQL Server 2005 SP1.
Subscription Type : Pull Subscription
Mode : Continuous Running Mode
Conflict Resolution Policy : Publisher Wins.
I have a table "Sample" (which is part of replication) and it has got 3 triggers. All the triggers are set NOT FOR REPLICATION.
The first trigger Updates a column of the "Sample" table in which i inserted a record.
The second trigger inserts record in to another database table and also updates a column of the table "Sample".
The third trigger does not affect any tables, it is written for some manipulations with variables.
In this scenario when I insert a record in the Sample table of the subscription database, that record is visible in the table. But during replication, it shows conflict in the Conflict Viewer and removes the record from the Sample table of the subscription database. The record is not replicated to the publisher and the other Subscriber also.
But when I comment any one update in either the first or second trigger, the insert works fine without any conflict.
Is there any issue with firing two triggers in replication which is updating the same table? I also suspect the Order of Commands moving to the Publisher from the MSReplication_Queue table, becoz the conflict viewer shows the subscriber as the Conflict loser.
Is there any issue with msrepl_tran_version, Since the conflict is decided based on this id??
It would be helpful if u could reply soon.
Thanks and Regards,
Swapna.B.
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Jan 24, 2007
I am using SQL 2000. How can I get my transactional replication reinitialized after it has failed with several attempts.
I know one way of doing it through enterprise manager and specifying the subscription to reinitialize. But this will apply the snapshot and will take long time.
Is there a fast way of doing it?
-Nipul
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Jan 25, 2007
Hi
We have setup transactional replication between 2 databases on SQL Server 2000 SP3a (~70GB), using a concurrent snapshot (to prevent locking out of the live database) to initilaise the data and a pull subscription from the second database.
From analysing the msdistribution_history table in the distribution database on the subscriber it appears that the snapshot is being applied in a continuous loop to the subscriber database. Viewing the comments column in the msdistribution_history table we can see the following sequence of events occuring
Initialising
Applied script 'snapshot.pre'
Then it applies all the schema files .sch
Then it applies all the index files .idx
The it bulk copies the data in (bcp)
Then it creates the Primary Keys
Then it applies all the trigger files .trg
Then it applies all the referential integrity files .dri
These all complete successfully but then the process kicks off again immediately after reapplying the snapshot. We are unaware of any settings that may be causing this.
Any help on what maybe causing this would be much appreciated.
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May 28, 2002
Hello-
I have a view that used to be updateable (except for a few fields, but that is fine). When I use the results of a CASE statement as one of the field values, the entire view is not updateable. The view is pasted below. Does anyone know how to keep my view updateable and, somehow, add this new field? Thank you.
-Eric
SELECT
DATEPART(yy, Orders.NextShipDate) AS year,
DATEPART(mm, Orders.NextShipDate) AS month,
DATEPART(dd, Orders.NextShipDate) AS day,
People.LastName,
People.FirstName,
Customers.CustomerID,
Orders.NextShipDate,
Customers.Custom,
Orders.AllocationTemp,
Orders.ShippingTemp,
Orders.HorseName,
Orders.PriorShipDate,
Customers.Username,
Customers.Password,
Orders.OrderID,
Orders.Deleted,
Orders.Deadbeat
FROM
People
INNER JOIN Customers
INNER JOIN Orders
ON Customers.CustomerID = Orders.CustomerID
ON People.PeopleID = Customers.PeopleID
WHERE
(CONVERT(DATETIME, CONVERT(CHAR(10), Orders.NextShipDate, 101)) <= DATEADD(d, 7, CURRENT_TIMESTAMP)) AND (Orders.Deleted = 0) AND
(Orders.Deadbeat = 0) AND
(Customers.Deleted = 0) AND
(Customers.Pending = 0) AND
(Orders.OrderID NOT IN
(SELECT Orders.OrderID
FROM Items INNER JOIN Products ON Items.ProductID = Products.ProductID INNER JOIN Orders ON Items.OrderID = Orders.OrderID
WHERE
(Items.Dose = 0) AND
(Products.IsPharmaceutical = 1) AND
(CONVERT(DATETIME, CONVERT(CHAR(10), Items.Created, 101)) > DATEADD(d, - 5, CURRENT_TIMESTAMP)) AND
(Items.Deleted = 0))) AND
EXISTS (SELECT ItemID FROM Items WHERE Items.OrderID = Orders.OrderID AND Deleted = 0)
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Oct 11, 2007
I could have swore I posted this earlier today, but it must not have went through...anyway here goes again.
Is there any way to tell if a view is updateable (updates the underlying table(s))?
Thanks,
Van
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Mar 24, 2008
I have a view that combines several tables, and lastly one column that is determined by a subquery.
i.e.
CREATE VIEW [View]
AS
SELECT
[TableA].*,
[TableB].*,
(SELECT TOP 1 [Column] FROM [TableC] ORDER BY [Column2])
AS [SpecialColumn]
FROM [TableA] INNER JOIN [TableB]
ON [TableA].[ColumnID] = [TableB].[ColumnID]
I have made INSTEAD OF UPDATE and INSTEAD OF INSERT triggers for this view that will then allow you to modify [View], and it will handle everything, adding/modifying the data in the three [TableX] tables accordingly.
In SQL Management Studio, the following code works fine, and is what is expected...
UPDATE [View] SET [SpecialColumn] = 1 WHERE [ColumnID] = @DesiredID
This will call my instead of trigger and update my special column accordingly exactly how I want it to.
Now, the problem lies in the application layer running on top of the database and how it accesses the view. Any call from the application to update [SpecialColumn] returns an OleDB error stating that [SpecialColumn] can not be modified. I assume that sql server is identifying the column as some sort of a derived column that normally wouldn't be able to be updated, and OleDB is restricting the column to just read only. Is there some way to override that in my view to say that the column is not read-only? Is this an OleDB restriction that can't be handled in the database/view itself?
I've also tried creating a stored procedure that called the exact same
UPDATE [View]
SET [SpecialColumn] = @param2
WHERE [ColumnID] = @param1
and it also works within management studio, but still gives a similar OleDB error about how the stored procedure attempts to update a derived column that can not be modified.
I have a solution where my stored procedure calls the exact same code as the instead of triggers to update the underlying tables of the view manually, however, I'm not asking for a solution like this to my problem, because this works fine, I simply am not happy having to do band-aid workarounds and am wondering if this is a common problem in front-ends and whether it can be handled on the database layer.
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Aug 14, 2005
I am hoping to create an updatable view from two tables joined on twofields. I have two questions;1. How can I enforce a one to one relation in sql server 2005 based on twofields? Do I need to create one explicitly under relations? Do I cerate anindex on both fields? Is there a step by step process I can look at tocreate one-one relations?2. Is a view updateable if there is a where clause on one of the fields inthe join/relation?Thank again.Regards
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Mar 23, 2007
How do I make a view non updateable? I want to create a view so that Iwill not be able to update, insert or delete the view so that basetable is not affected (except dropping the view itself). Thanks.
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Mar 26, 2000
I think it whould be simpler to explain what I am trying to accomplish.
I wish to pull a query to return multiple records from a SQL 7.0 database.
The query is a customers standing order.
I wish to make edits to multiple records then return those records for update.
The HTML pages that I have seen all seem to display tables on a singular record format.
Is it possible to display records in a 'Table' format and allow it to be updated.
Can any one answer this or direct me to a site with the relevent info.
Thanks Stuart
Indtec@eircom.net
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Sep 11, 2007
I've been experiencing conflicts in my replication system that I can't seem to get my head around. The following is the scenario:
3 sqlservers, all running sql server 2005. Server B is the publisher and Server A and Server C (64 bit) are subscribers. The Queue Reader Agent runs on the publisher. I set up transactional repl with updateable subscriptions with the default conflict resolution policy of 'Publisher wins'.
There are 2 kinds of processes: 1. Nightly batch updates and 2. Daytime updates by real clients. The Nightly batch updates runs an on the publisher, which is B. Batch updates are massive updates and running it on the publisher makes sense and it works like a charm. Online updates are made on the subscriber 'C'. This subscriber is set to Queued update mode, and everyday I see a significant number of transactions that are detected as conflicts and the Publisher wins. As a result the changes made on Server C are getting lost. I have verified that no user/client is logged into Server B to do any updates. Users complain that their updates are lost. This is the most puzzling and frustrating bit. I don't see how a conflict can happen if nobody is updating data on the Publisher during the day. SQL Updates on Server C are getting rolled back on a conflict detection because the "Publisher wins", and SQL Inserts on server C are getting deleted because they don't exist on the publisher. Now, how can a insert done on the subscriber be marked as a conflict. There is no row on the publisher to compare the unique guid with, how can it be a conflict?
And the Queue Reader Agent crashes every 3-4 days. No useful information except it creates a dump file for which users have no tools to read it.
Has anyone seen this behavior ? Or is there a known bug in the QueueReader Agent?
My users are losing faith in the replication system and so am I.
Thanks for your time,
-chiraj.
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May 13, 2007
Hi
I could not able to find Forums in regards to 'Log Shipping' thats why posting this question in here. Appriciate if someone can provide me answers depends on their experience.
Can we switch database recovery model when log shipping is turned on ?
We want to switch from Full Recovery to Bulk Logged Recovery to make sure Bulk Insert operations during the after hours load process will have some performance gain.
Is there any possibility of loosing data ?
Thanks
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Jun 13, 2006
When I include a field from my SQL Server database, which has it's Allow Nulls value checked, in the data source of any type of control with it's Enable Editing property check, I then can not edit the record! If I remove the Allow Nulls field I can then edit it! What am I missing here?
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Jul 29, 2004
Hi All,
How can I link a view into MS Access from MS Sql Server, that I can update as a tabble.
Thanks
Laszlo
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Mar 12, 2008
I have used the Access 2003 Upsize Wizard to create SQLServer Tables, all worked fine except I cannot Update the tables from Access.
The idea being to use Access Forms as the front end to an SQLserver back end as the Access database is quite complex and filled with macros and queries, not one of mine.
I can update the table in SQLServer but the connected tables at the Access end are read only. Why?
Kind regards,
Johnv
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Jul 5, 2007
Hi,
is there any update on the subject?
Jet has it for ages.
I want to use Scrollable/Updateable Cursors & OLEDB Rowsets opened via Select query.
Last time I have heard that MSFT is planning to add this in the future.
Is there a beta version that I can try?
Thanks,
Konstantin
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Feb 11, 2008
It seems to me that if a scheduled SSRS report subscription fails ( Status Message - An error has occurred during report processing) , that I actually need to delete the subscription and reconfigure it from scratch. The scheduled job doesn't try to run again automatically (say the next Monday on a weekly Monday schedule).
Is there a way to "reset" a failed subscription without have to recreate the entire subscription?
Thank you
Devon Kyle
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Sep 26, 2007
28638
SSCE_M_DUPLICATETABLE
Existing subscription already contains table included in the new subscription.
What are the possible causes of this merge replication error?
Could it be caused by a SQL Server Compact Edition User trying to sync their .sdf file after their subscription has already expired on the SQL Server?
Would you expect to see a different message if a SQL Server Compact Edition user tried to sync a subscriber database (.sdf file) with merge replication if it's been longer than the subscription retention period since their last sync?
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Jun 8, 2006
Hi,
I 'm sure I am missing something obvious, hopefully someone could point it out. After a failover log shipping, I want to fail back to my inital Primary server database; however, my database is marked as loading. How can I mark it as normal?
I did the failover as follow:
I did a failover log shipping from the 2 server Sv1 (Primary) and Sv2 (Secondary) by doing the following
1) Stop the primary database by using sp_change_primary_role (Sv1)
2) Change the 2nd server to primary server by running sp_change_secondary_role (Sv2)
3) Change the monitor role by running sp-change_monitor_role (Sv2)
4) Resolve the log ins - (Sv2)
5) Now I want to fail back - I copy the TRN files to Sv1 - use SQL Ent to restore the database at point in time. The task is done; however, the database is still mark as loading. I could not use sp_dboption.
I appreciate any suggestion.
Thanks in advance
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Apr 21, 2015
We have many users with a mobile application running SQL Mobile and using merge replication to get data back to the SQL 2008 R2 database. This has worked very well for many years.
We now have a requirement to have this data reported on using Reporting Services. This is where it gets messy.
Due to a limitation of Report Builder(see this blog) we cannot provide access to users for creating their own reports. The report database is remote from the host and there is no VPN.
We hit upon the idea of creating an almost identical publication but the articles as read-only. It was only after this was done that we started having trouble with our existing mobile users.
It seems that a published article is EITHER Bi-directional OR Read-only even if they are in separate publications.
I then thought of using Transactional Publication but this too is blocked on creation with "automatic identity range support is useful only for publications that allow updating subscribers"(Merge and Transactional publication are mutually exclusive)
So in the final analysis is there a way for me to have merge replication AND some other form of SQL replication/data transfer that can have the same data transmitted readonly to a separate full SQL server database?
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Dec 1, 2006
Hello,
I'm interested in combining the Peer-to-Peer Transactional Replication and Standard Transactional Replication to provide a scale out solution of SQL Server 2005. The condition is as follows:
We may have 10 SQL Server 2005 (1 Publisher + 9 Subscriber) running transactional replication in the production environment and allow updates in subscribers. To offload the loading of the publisher, we plan to have 2 Publisher (PubNode1 and PubNode2) using Peer-to-Peer Transaction Replication and the rest 8 subscribers will be divided into 2 groups. The subscribers 1-4 (SubNode1, SubNode2, SubNode3, and SubNode4) will be set to be standard transactional replication subscribers of PubNode1, and the rest 4 subscribers (SubNode5, ..., SubNode8) will be set to be standard transactional replication subscribers of PubNode2.
Is it possible to setup above 2 Publisher + 8 Subscriber topology?
Also, could we set the 8 subscribers with updatable subscriptions to achieve each node is updatable?
We do not plan to set all the 10 nodes using Peer-to-Peer Transactional Replication as it is necessary to make sure n*(n-1)/2 (i.e. 45) peer-to-peer connections is reliable. It seems that the maintenance cost is high if the servers are not in a LAN and the topology is very high coupling. So we prefer to divide the 10 nodes into 2 groups and reduce the cost of each node to maintain the connections to all other sites.
That's the scenario.
Any feedback is welcome and appreciated.
Thanks,
Terence
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Feb 7, 2007
Hi,
How do we take Transactional Log Backup using sqlserver 2000? Can we take only transactional log back up?
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Jul 30, 2001
On my distribution server there is a directory called mssql7
epldataunc that houses the bcp, sch and idx files for replications. A directory is created for each publication. Most directories are empty but some contain all the table idx, sch and bcp files for the publication. Some of these files are over 6 month. Does anyone know if these files are neccessary to keep and why do only some publications have these files. I am wondering if they are kept when you push the publicaiton and it errors out originally and you have to restart it? If any one can shed some like on this I would appreciate it.
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