What Do You Think About This(filegroup & Perfermance)

May 8, 2001

hi...
I don't know well this statement...


1. from Transcender
.....
One file for each filegroup is sufficient because creating multiple files for the same filegroup on the same disk does not provide any performance gain

2. from bol
....
Therefore, creating more files per filegroup can help increase performance because a separate thread is used to scan each file in parallel

what is correct ?
thanks !!

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hello,
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z uniqueidentifier
a varchar(40)
b varchar(40)
c varchar(40)
d varchar(40)
e varchar(40)
f text
g image

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I am new to MS-SQL 7.0.
Can anyone suggest me how to go for it.
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