What Is Logical And Physical Database Design
May 19, 2008
hi we are in the process of developing a project and we r at the initial phase i.e. at the analysis phase and we have been discusssing on what is physical and logical database design. can any body send any links or articals on this will be hightly appreciated.
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Nov 8, 2007
Hi,
i want to do the physical modeling using MS Visio. Whether is it availble with Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 or not?? If Yes, Could you please asssit what necessary loaded with Studio and Version Details.
Amirineni
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Sep 12, 2005
What is the difference between the logical database schema and the physical database schema?
Thanks!
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Jun 16, 2003
Does anyone have any recommendation on whether it's better to monitor the average queue lenght for physical or logical drives? What about for a RAID set?
Just wondering,
thanks
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Aug 23, 2006
A database was set up as a test database and then the database name changed but the logical and physical filenames still have test in their name - obviously not a good idea. I have tried to change the physical file name but get the error message that the physical file name cannot be changed once the database has been created. I have also tried detaching the database and renaming the mdf and ldf files but these could not be re-attached so had to revert back to the original names.
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Jul 9, 2014
What is the difference between Logical Join and Physical Join and there Types?
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Apr 3, 2011
Is there a query or sp that I can pull all databases on the server along with their logical file names and physical file names?
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Oct 22, 2015
We have an OLTP database and operational reporting is carried out on a replica server / database. We have plans to build a new data warehouse and an analysis services cube.
Question 1:Should a cube be designed to extract data from a physical star schema rather than a logical one (3NF relational (ODS?) using a data source view to derive the star)? I'm guessing for performance it's better to pull data from similar structures (physical facts and dimensions as required by analysis services) but is the difference significant?
Question 2:Depending on the answer to q1, is it bad practice to ETL data from a staging database (replica > staging) directly to a star schema (multiple data sources and cleansing / business rules required)? Or should it be processed from staging to an ods and only then to a star schema (physical or logical). I still don't know if an ODS is required but I guess the consideration for this decision is whether the business would require  daily operational (or ad hoc) reporting on the consolidated data sources (without needing historical DW functionality).
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Jul 20, 2005
I got a server that has a RAID-5 array partitioned into C: and D:drives (OS Win2K Adv. Server installed on C:). The server also has amapping to a NAS device using the latest protocols that trick thesystem into thinking the map is actually a local SCSII drive. That'sdrive X:.This server is used only for SQL, and contains an OLTP database thatsees a lot of use and is pretty heavily indexed.I am toying with the idea of centralizing my data storage on the NAS(data center network segment is 1-gigabit ethernet). So I wasthinking about putting my primary data file on the NAS (drive X:) andkeeping all tables there, creating a secondary data file on localRAID-5 (drive D:) and putting all non-clustered indexes there, as wellas keeping the tempdb there and specifying the sort in tempdb option.Log files would also remain on D:.If anyone can suggest a better scenario given the above setup - I'dlove to hear it. Much appreciated.Alexey Aksyonenko
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Jan 5, 1999
Can someone recommend an application that produces an estimate of the size of a database from column definitions and
estimated number of rows in each table? -- Thanks
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Nov 5, 2006
Can someone please explain this statement: At the logical level where there can be any number of entities in a relationship while physically you define relationships between two tables.
thx,
Kat
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Mar 8, 2015
I had to to relocate the database log file and I issued an Alter database command but by mistake I put a space in the file name as below. The space is at the beginning file name. Now I am unable get the database loaded to SQL Server. The database has 2 replications configured, so deleting and re-attaching the database means the replication needs to be re-configured. Is there an alternative way to issue a command to update the database FILENAME ? Not sure if this can be edited in master database (sys files).
ALTER DATABASE [User_DB]
MODIFY FILE (NAME = User_DB_log, FILENAME = 'I:SQLLogs User_DB_log.ldf')
GO
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Jul 31, 2007
Hi how do I select the current logical database name using a select statement.
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Nov 7, 2007
I usually crate relation with database but not use physical relation
* My question is if crate physical relation is best way or not
and what advantage and disadvantage of physical relation
and if it the best way to make relation
thanks in advance
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Apr 10, 2001
Hello All,
I am facing problem with Logical File Name while restoring database. I am taking a backup of ABC database from Server1 in abc.bak file.
Then I am creating new database XYZ on Server2. Server1 and Server2 are not connected to each other in anyway, since both servers belong to different companies. Here on Server2 I want to restore backup of abc.bak on XYZ database. I select restore from Device, and on option tab I am selecting Force restore over existing database, in the below option I am specifying current Data & log file path for Move to physical file name.
But Logical file name shows ABC names, but if I tried to change those to XYZ names then restore fails. But if I keep ABC names then it works.
Is anybody knows how to over come this Logical Name issue?
Many thanks in advance….
Regards,
Santosh
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Mar 9, 2000
Is there a way to rename the logical file for a database. For example, if I am moving a development database into production, I can use backup - but the backup takes the logical file names of the database and puts it into my production server. Now I have a production database with "dev_data1" for a logical file.....Can I change that name....?
Thanks!
Dean
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Jun 7, 2006
I want to move 2 databases to another physical disk. They are both single file databases. It looks like a fairly straigtforward attach and detach procedure, but I have a couple of questions:
The log files (.ldf) currently reside on a separate physical disk from the data files, if I attach and reattach the data files will the logs remain where they are by default or do I have to re specify there location?
Is there any advantage to running the update statistics portion of the sp_detach_db?
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Mar 19, 2004
I have been trying to use DMO(C++) to backup a database and then restore from that backup to a new db name AND physical data and log files, with no success. I have been able to successfully restore the backup to the same database and change the physical file names using the RelocateFiles property on the Restore object, but not change both.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Oct 13, 2000
In 6.5 , I was NOT able to use mapped network drive for new database
device if the MSSQLSERVER service is running under local system account,
but if I changed it to using a domain a/c which has the authority to
create files on mapped drive, I was able to do it.
But if I tried it in 7.0, it never work and got msg:
Server: Msg 5105, Level 16, State 2, Line 1
Device activation error. The physical file name 'e:est2.mdf' may be
incorrect.
Server: Msg 1802, Level 16, State 1, Line 1
CREATE DATABASE failed. Some file names listed could not be created. Check
previous errors.
Is it something that's normal for 6.5 and 7.0 ????
i.e. we can only create databases on LOCAL drives ?
I am just thinking of in case we run of space locally, we can temporarily
make use of remote mapped network drive. (say at time of upgrading)
Any one has this experience ?
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Mar 27, 2015
If I run an ALTER DATABASE command that renames the Logical file name of a database, will I run into any unseen consequences in terms of day to day use of the database?
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Oct 10, 2007
I have detached the database via sp_detach_db in a job, (I was trying to use a job to detach the database, then make copies of the mdf file, then attach the databases as different copies, somehow the job failed due to file locked) I tried to delete the physical files, but they were still locked. I tried several times, two of them I was able to delete the mdf files, but not the ldf file. The other one both mdf file and ldf file can not be deleted. I was not able to see the database via Management studio.
Can anyone help?
Thanks
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Jul 23, 2005
Hi,We have a situation where we want to move our current databaseserver to a different hardware and rename the server.If we change the Physical server name, do we have to go thru the wholeprocess of changing it in sql server by running sp_dropserver,sp_addserver?Can we have an alias for the server name in DNS and can sql serverresolve the server name internally by going thru DNS?For eg: Our current database server name is FFSQL-PRD01. We have itregistered in EM as FFSQL-PRD01. Now we renamed the server toSTLSQL-PRD01, and added an entry in DNS for STLSQL-PRD01 with alias ofFFSQL-PRD01( the same old name as alias). After doing this when I goto EM and click on FFSQL-PRD01 would it give me an error? or can itresolve the server name by going to DNS.When you install SQl server the default instance has to be the physicalserver name, Why? Is the physical server name stored in Masterdatabase( SYSSERVERS table)?Thanks for your help.Geetha
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Jul 20, 2005
Is there a method in SQL Server 2k to re-locate the physical databasefiles at the time the server reboots. Currently, the only way I know todo this is by scripting some OS-level commands.Thanks in advance for your help.Amy BoydDatabase AdministratorNetwork Associates*** Sent via Developersdex http://www.developersdex.com ***Don't just participate in USENET...get rewarded for it!
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Mar 26, 2015
I have a folder with 1000 text(.txt) files in it.
I want to insert the filenames into a table in sql server.
Is it possible in SQL Server 2008..?
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May 13, 2015
I have a scenario like below
Product1
Product2 Product3
Product4 Product5
Product1 1
1 0 0
1
Product2 1
1 0 0
1
Product3 0
0 1 1
0
Product4 0
0 1 1
0
Product5 1
1 0 0
1
How to design tables in SQL Server for the above.
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Aug 13, 2015
In our production we have a database by name MyDb.The application team wanted another database by the name MyDbOld which contains the data of Mydb 1 month old. So I created a database MyDbOld in other instance(test) and restored MyDbOld from the one month backup of MyDb in production server. In test instance I backed MyDbOld as MyDbOld.bak...
In the production instance I created a new DB by the name MyDbOld and restored the MyDbOld in the production from the backup of MyDbold.bak in the test instance. Now I have 2 databases in the production instance ie MyDb and 2)MyDbOld. However I find the logical names of both the databases to be the same although the database name and the physical file name to be different.My questions are-:
1) Does it in any manner affect the integrity of the 2 databases if the 2 databases are in the same instance and have the same logical name?
2) Would the dml or data retrieval operations in the 2 databases have any conflict in any manner what so ever?
3) Having a unique database name, and unique file names for the physical files for any database in an instance what is the purpose and significance of additionally having a logical name for a database?
4) Which I could restore a database from the backup of another database in the same instance and at the same time change the logical and physical name of the files to correspond to the new database.
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Feb 13, 2002
Ok, I'm doing a football database for fixtures and stuff. The problem I am having is that in a fixture, there is both a home, and an away team. The tables as a result are something like this:
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Fixture
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fix_id
fix_date
fix_played
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Team
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tem_id
tem_name
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TeamFixture
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fix_id
tem_id
homeorawayteam
goals
It's not exactly like that, but you get the point. The question is, can I do a fixture query which results in one record per fixture, showing both teams details. The first in a hometeam field and the second in an away team field.
Fixture contains the details about the fixture like date and fixture id and has it been played
Team contains team info like team id, name, associated graphic
TeamFixture is the table which links the fixture to it's home and away team.
TeamFixture exists to prevent a many to many type relationship.
Make sense? Sorry if this turns out to be really easy, just can't get my head around it at the mo!
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Dec 13, 2006
Hi All,
Is it possbile to define connection string for web and database server which is running on different machine. Note( Not same LAN).
E.g (My Web Server is in London and Database server in Sydney).
Please can any one help me.??
Thanks in advance...
Dj
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Mar 9, 2007
Hello!
What is the best way to make a copy of an existing sql server database to another (physical) server?
Plan to make a full backup of another sql server database to another server. I've read about detach and attach
and copying the datafiles and log files but some say it is prone to data loss? Is this true?
And another thing, what if the existing sql server can't affor downtime for me to copy db files etc.?
Anybody here who have done the same?
Any help is very much appreciated.
Thanks!
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Oct 29, 2015
I actually work in an organisation and we have to find a solution about the data consistancy in the database. our partners use to send details to the organisation and inserted directly in the database, so we want to create a new database as a buffer database to insert informations from the partners then make an update to the main database. is there a better solution instead of that?
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Feb 24, 2006
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Jul 23, 2005
I have a system that basically stores a database within a database (I'msure lots have you have done this before in some form or another).At the end of the day, I'm storing the actual data generically in acolumn of type nvarchar(4000), but I want to add support for unlimitedtext. I want to do this in a smart fashion. Right now I am leaningtowards putting 2 nullable Value fields:ValueLong ntext nullableValueShort nvarchar(4000) nullableand dynamically storing the info in one or the other depending on thesize. ASP.NET does this exact very thing in it's Session State model;look at the ASPStateTempSessions table. This table has both aSessionItemShort of type varbinary (7000) and a SessionItemLong of typeImage.My question is, is it better to user varbinary (7000) and Image? I'mthinking maybe I should go down this path, simply because ASP.NET does,but I don't really know why. Does anyone know what would be the benifitof using varbinary and Image datatypes? If it's just to allow saving ofbinary data, then I don't really need that right now (and I don't thinkASP.NET does either). Are there any other reasons?thanks,dave
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Aug 16, 2007
Hi All,Can u please suggest me some books for relational database design ordatabase modelling(Knowledgeable yet simple) i.e. from which we couldlearn database relationships(one to many,many to oneetc.....),building ER diagrams,proper usage of ER diagrams in ourdatabase(Primary key foreign key relations),designing smallmodules,relating tables and everything that relates about databasedesign....Coz I think database design is the crucial part of databaseand we must know the design part very first before starting up withdatabases.....Thanks and very grateful to all of you....Vikas
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