Workgroup Upgrade
Jul 6, 2007
Has anyone had problems like this.
I recently got SQL Server 2005 Workgroup edition. I did the normal
'read everything I could' to make sure I was getting the correct version for my business.
After having to wait 4 weeks to upgrade, as we were waiting for our accounting system to be upgraded to come inline with SQL 2005, I came across the problem where DTS is not really compatible to the degree I needed with this edition.
I have since gone back to the reseller and they say we can't exchange it for Standard edition as 4 weeks has passed.
The only thing we can do is pay out (1 month later) another £6,000 to get the version we need, totaling £11,000
Being that we are a small business, paying out another £6,000 isn't an option.
Does anyone have any good advise on this?
Many thanks
Scott
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Apr 26, 2007
Hello,
I am currently hosting my ecommerce site on a dedicated server with dual AMD processors and 2 gigs of ram. I have on average 20 people on the site at one time.
on this server i have sql express, from which i understand, only utilizes one of the processors and 1gig of ram. I have the choice to pay an extra 150 a month to have my host put sql workgroup on my system.
My question is, will i notice any kind of real performace boost by upgrading. Or at the level that i am at, there wont be much difference?
Any help would be very useful.
Thanks
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Jul 6, 2007
We have got the wrong version of SQL Server 2005 due to not having SSIS. We have loads of DTS packages running and I have tried to import them and its shows no SSIS service installed.
Is the route to upgrade straight forward? We have a couple of databases running on 2005 upgraded from 2000 but most still are active on 2000.
Cheers
Scott
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Dec 21, 2007
I have installed SBS 2003 Premium with Exchange 2003 SP1 and now I want to install SQL server 2005 workgroup edition.
Heres what I noticed during setup, following the steps of the Server 2005 Workgroup Edition instructions, starting with Upgrading the Sharepoint instance of WMSDE.
Preparing the http://companyweb website:
Step 4. I should make a backup of the data directory within program filesMicrosoft SQL ServerMSSQL$SHAREPOINT directory. However there is no data-directory there, so nothing to backup there. This is probably the reason for all the rest of the issues, however what does it mean, why is there no such directory present? I checked before doing the sql install that by going to http://companyweb I did indeed land on the sharepoint internal website.
Rest goes all normal, until :
Attaching the databasefiles to the new SHAREPOINT instance of SQL server 2005.
Step 4.: go to MSSQL$SHAREPOINTdata. Not only is there no such subdirectory now, the whole MSSQL$SHAREPOINT directory has in fact now disappeared. So steps 4 till 6 cannot be performed now.
Then further to
Enable full text search in Windows Sharepoint services
Step 2. Remark: I get the error message as described there, however the solution would be to start the SQL server (Shareoint service. However that service is up and running
Furthermore when I go to http://companyweb now, I also get the errormessage indicating no connection can be established with the configuration database.
When I check for services, I find that the whole MSSQL$SHAREPOINT service has disappeared from the list of services.
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Jan 25, 2007
Hi, all. I see two conflicting notes about whether one can install the SQL Server 2005 Trial/Evaluation and then upgrade to Workgroup or Standard editions, without uninstalling the Evaluation edition.
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms143393.aspx seems to say YES, you can upgrade to Workgroup/Standard from the Evaluation edition.
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/howtobuy/faq.mspx says NO, you can only upgrade to Enterprise edition from the Evaluation edition. For Workgroup and Standard, you must uninstall the Trial first.
Which is the correct answer?
Thanks,
Stephen
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Aug 1, 2006
I have clients that have the MSDE version installed and we need to upgrade there program to the MSSQL 2005. Is there an easy way to convert the data? Should or Could I uninstall MSDE and than install MSSQL2005 WorkGrp? Will there data be affected? Any tips would be appreciated.Thanks!
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Feb 8, 2008
I'd like to upgrade from my current SQL Server version: 09.00.3042 (Workgroup edition that comes with SBS upgrade) to the standard edition that I've just purchased. I've attempted to run setup.exe SKUUPGRADE=1 from the command prompt and it just tells me that there's nothing new to install.
I don't really want to uninstall the current installation just to do something that shouldn't be complicated to do, upgrading software versions should not be a difficult process.
Does anybody have any experience with this?
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Aug 8, 2006
Can we upgrade from Express 2005 to Standard/Workgroup 2005??If possible with what complexities can it be done??
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May 7, 2008
Hi All,
A client of mine was using SQL Express and soon realised this doesn't meet his needs performance or database size wise. He also realised that SQL Server 2005 Workgroup came free with his R2 version of SBS.
So in essence, I have been trying to find the Microsoft recommended way to upgrade from Express to Workgroup. I have not been able to find a step-by-step guide and to add to my confusion, when I run the work-group installer it tells me to run the installer with a switch which I have gone ahead and done but when selecting components it has all of them defaulted to blanked out.
Surely the process for an in-place upgrade should not be so technical as I am finding it ? To my mind, the natural progression would be to upgrade express to a better capable version of 2005 and should be as easy as pie.
Anyway, I am basically looking for a step-by-step guide on how to upgrade to get it done right the first time as opposed to upgrading and than realised some remenants of Express are still larking about causing trouble.
Regards,
QS
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Nov 29, 2006
When attemping to install SQL 2005 Express using the following command line arguments
/qb UPGRADE=SQL_Engine INSTANCENAME=MY_INSTANCE
or
/qb UPGRADE=SQL_Engine INSTANCENAME=MY_INSTANCE SECURITYMODE=SQL SAPWD=MY_PASSWORD
the following error occurs.
Your upgrade is blocked. For more information about upgrade support, see the "Version and Edition Upgrades" and "Hardware and Software Requirements" topics in SQL Server 2005 Setup Help or SQL Server 2005 Books Online.
Edition check:
Your upgrade is blocked because of edition upgrade rules. For more information about edition upgrades, see the Version and Edition Upgrades topic in SQL Server 2005 Setup Help or SQL Server 2005 Books Online.
The following version and editions have been verified.
1. .NET 2.0 installed
2. Windows XP SP2
3. MSDE 8.00.2039(SP4)
4. all MSDE databases are owned by sa
5. Instance and SQLAgent running under user that is member of Administrators
What are the possible reasons this error is occurring?
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May 13, 2008
We have a server instance on SQL Server 2005 SP2 build 3042. We have a 32 bit x86 server. We attempted to upgrade to SP2 build 3054 KB934458. And we got the following error as stated in the Summary.txt file.
Code Snippet
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Product Installation Status
Product : SQL Server Database Services 2005 (MSSQLSERVER)
Product Version (Previous): 3042
Product Version (Final) :
Status : Failure
Log File : C:Program FilesMicrosoft SQL Server90Setup BootstrapLOGHotfixSQL9_Hotfix_KB934458_sqlrun_sql.msp.log
Error Number : 29538
Error Description : MSP Error: 29538 SQL Server Setup did not have the administrator permissions required to rename a file: e:SQLDatamssqlsystemresource1.ldf. To continue, verify that the file exists, and either grant administrator permissions to the account currently running Setup or log in with an administrator account. Then run SQL Server Setup again.
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The client tools and workstation components were successfully installed. The server is still reporting build 3042.
Here is the portions of the HotFix.log file.
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05/12/2008 09:19:09.041 Copy Engine: Creating MSP install log file at: C:Program FilesMicrosoft SQL Server90Setup BootstrapLOGHotfixSQL9_Hotfix_KB934458_sqlrun_sql.msp.log
05/12/2008 09:19:09.072 Registry: Opened registry key "SoftwarePoliciesMicrosoftWindowsInstaller"
05/12/2008 09:19:09.103 Registry: Cannot read registry key value "Debug"
05/12/2008 09:21:29.382 MSP Error: 29538 SQL Server Setup did not have the administrator permissions required to rename a file: e:SQLDatamssqlsystemresource1.ldf. To continue, verify that the file exists, and either grant administrator permissions to the account currently running Setup or log in with an administrator account. Then run SQL Server Setup again.
05/12/2008 09:22:33.678 MSP returned 1603: A fatal error occurred during installation.
05/12/2008 09:22:33.724 Registry: Opened registry key "SoftwarePoliciesMicrosoftWindowsInstaller"
Any help would be appreciated.
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Jan 20, 2006
My package is to copy data from an Access 97 db into a SQL2k5 table.
Problem is that the 'mdb' is subscribed to a 'mdw' workgroup and I have been unable to workout / read how to get the SSIS manager to join the workgroup. Connection fails because "...you don't have necessary permission..."
I was able to do this previously for SQL 2k by messing with the registry, but I'm now on unfamiliar teritory.
Any answers? Cheers.
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Jan 31, 2008
My company has a large-ish website and we are migrating to new
servers. There will be a web server (accessible to the world) backed
by a SQL Server 2005 Standard server (only accessible by the web server and
through VPN/Remote Desktop to administrators and our internal
network). We can either put the database server (which is not in a
cluster) on our domain or leave it in a workgroup. My first thought
is leave it in a workgroup simply for security and reliability (i.e.
if the DC goes down or loses connectivity), but people here are
disagreeing with me.
Should I put the database server (which is not used internally at all)
on the domain or leave it in a workgroup?
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Jan 31, 2008
My company has a large-ish website and we are migrating to new
servers. There will be a web server (accessible to the world) backed
by a SQL Server 2005 Standard server (only accessible by the web server and
through VPN/Remote Desktop to administrators and our internal
network). We can either put the database server (which is not in a
cluster) on our domain or leave it in a workgroup. My first thought
is leave it in a workgroup simply for security and reliability (i.e.
if the DC goes down or loses connectivity), but people here are
disagreeing with me.
Should I put the database server (which is not used internally at all)
on the domain or leave it in a workgroup?
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Jan 19, 2007
Hi,
We are performing a SQL 2005 SP1 upgrade from SQL 2000 on our Windows 2003 SP1 Standard Edition.
When we run the upgrade, we got a error "Upgrade Advisor Return -1" as a pop-up window.
When we run the Upgrade Advisor separately, we get this error :
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Common Language Runtime detected an invalid program.
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Common Language Runtime detected an invalid program. (System.Xml)
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Program Location:
at System.Xml.Schema.SchemaInfo..ctor()
at System.Xml.Schema.XmlSchemaSet..ctor(XmlNameTable nameTable)
at System.Xml.XmlReaderSettings.get_Schemas()
at Microsoft.SqlServer.UpgradeAdvisor.ReportViewer.UAReportController.LoadAndValidateDataFile()
at Microsoft.SqlServer.UpgradeAdvisor.ReportViewer.UAReport.ValidateDataFile()
at Microsoft.SqlServer.UpgradeAdvisor.ReportViewer.UAIssueReport.Refresh()
at Microsoft.SqlServer.UpgradeAdvisor.ReportPanel.OpenReport(String reportFile)
We are in a lost for solutions. We do hope to hear from anyone asap...
Greatly appreciated for any kind assistance.
Thanks.
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Feb 10, 2007
Hi,
We are running a test upgrade form sql 2000 standard edition 32 bit to sql 2005 developer edition 32bit. Followed through all the steps and specified the account(SA priveleges and currently used by the 2000 version) and is the local admin on the box for the services and the setup seemed to move fine, except for when it got to the point of installing database services - This is the error message that I got:
MSSQLServer could not be started. Verify you have sufficient priveleges to start system services. The was no choice but to hit cancel and then the set up progressed with a final message of 'SEtup failed'.
Here is a portion of the error log:
Attempting to recover in-doubt distributed transactions involving Microsoft Distributed Transaction Coordinator (MS DTC). This is an informational message only. No user action is required.
Database Mirroring Transport is disabled in the endpoint configuration.
Starting up database 'master'.
Converting database 'master' from version 589 to the current version 611.
Database 'master' running the upgrade step from version 589 to version 590.
Error: 946, Severity: 14, State: 1.
Cannot open database 'master' version 589. Upgrade the database to the latest version.
System Task Aggregate global counters produced an error that was not handled. Major: 9, Minor: 46, Severity:14, State:1
Error: 928, Severity: 20, State: 1.
During upgrade, database raised exception 15151, severity 16, state 1, address 01C4C50B. Use the exception number to determine the cause.
Error: 15151, Severity: 16, State: 1.
Cannot find the endpoint 'TSQL Local Machine', because it does not exist or you do not have permission.
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Thanks KR
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Aug 16, 2006
Hi
I've build a client management (Windows) application in VS2005 which works fine on the local development machine but falls over when trying to connect to the SQL Server Express file located on a second machine on the same Workgroup. Several of the apllications will connect to the database file from networked computers.
The error I get when testing the connection or trying to connect via the App is:---------------------------------------------------------------The file "Z:BushBreaks.MDF" is on a network path that is not supported for database files.An attempt to attach and auto-named database for file z:ushbreaks.mdf failed. A database with the same name exists, or specified file cannot be opened or it is on a UNC share.---------------------------------------------------------------
How can I configure this database and/or connection to be able to allow connections to the MDF file? Please note that security is not an issue if that is at all relevant.
Many ThanksJohn
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Sep 26, 2005
We have a set of client servers which will include a SQL Server 2000 active/passive cluster attached to a SAN. We have all the equipment here (no attachment to client site) to configure. My worry is since it will have to be setup as a workgroup, and then shipped to client to add to their domain, is this a doable option. has anyone had to do this or tried this? Or would we be better off shipping whole thing to client and setting up cluster there?
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Apr 8, 2004
I want to copy the database backup files to another server as a part of logshipping implementation. tried using xcopy it doesn't work.
it says "invalid drive specification"
also tried using a dll, the dll does the copying i just had to call the dll through an sp, while trying this the QA hanged, tried killing the process but the process didn't kill, i had to restart the service.
the network in not a domain its workgroup.
with sql server 2000 on win2k server.
any inputs are welcome.
thanks in advance
regards,
harshal.
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Jul 18, 2007
I would like to ask regarding sa performance difference between the two version of SQL 2005. Which is better the SQL 2005 workgroup or the standard edition..?
Darren Bernabe Blanco
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Jul 23, 2005
We're running a simple network with a Windows XP Pro machine runningSQL Server. I have a VB application that runs fine on machines withinthe workgroup. There are several computers outside the workgroup butphysically reside on the network that generate OLEDB errors. I knowwith certainty it is establishing a connection to SQL Server. Theerror occurs on a SELECT statement. The user has read and writepermission to the database. I even tried giving the user Admin rightsjust as a test and it still generated the error. Is this a result ofthe cnmputer not being a member of the Workgroup? Thanks.Damon
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Jan 4, 2006
How to establish connection string for sql server on non-domain network?
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Jan 17, 2007
Good afternoon,so here is a question I've been struggling with that I thought folks onthe forum might have some wisdom kicking around on. I have severalproduction servers that are living within a workgroup where there is nodomain controler. However, I would still like to set up trustedsecurity for my asp.net applications. IIS is living on one server, andSQL server on another. Is there a way I can add a trusted relationshipto the machine and account that the IIS app is running under?My thanks in advance!Jonathan Wiggs*** Sent via Developersdex http://www.developersdex.com ***
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Jul 20, 2005
Hi have a small network setup and have MS sql server on workstation.Can access it locally but cannot access it from other work stations.I am assuming it is some sort of logon error, being it is not adomain. Any ideas on getting by this ?
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Jul 19, 2007
I have two SQL servers that I am trying to setup log shipping on. I am unable to get the restore of the initial database to work on the standby server. It gets a "unable to open file" error when trying to do the restore.
I have created a "syncaccount" user on both machines, and both have same password. I have used configuration manager to set the user/password for the agents on both servers.
I have given syncaccount admin access. I have added syncaccount to the shares on both servers.
Wy am I getting this error.
Does anyone else think it is VERY difficult to make this function work.
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Apr 5, 2007
Hi guys,
I am a Systems Engineer and was sent on a job to a site that has a newly created SBS 2003 R2 Premium box which was OEM pre-installed from Dell. The SBS install was evidently finished off by the I.T. guys at the site. Now along comes some software house to install their propritery application. During this install process, the software guy was unable to find an instance of SQL running and installs SQL 2005 Express and the Express Studio management console. He installs his application and before he leaves says to the I.T. guys "Oh and by the way, there is a 4GB limit per database on SQL Express. You will have to change that to workgroup edition before the data grows too big. Have a nice day byeee!!!".
The I.T. guys go "Huh? Lets call James." So now I have to get this database off the SQL Express instance and onto a workgroup instance. I understand about detaching a database and re-attaching it. No prob there. What is confusing me is when I look at the default instance which should be a Workgroup instance, all I see is an Express instance.
What I am planning to do is rip out all the SQL 2005 stuff, leaving behind only Sharepoint, SBSmonitoring and WSUS stuff. The, using the SBS Premium cd's, install SQL 2005 again and updating the service packs for it again. Then mount the databases under it and get the software guys back in to reconfigure their application if need be.
Thing is, I have no idea how to sort it all out other than "Add remove programs" in control panel and remove the SQL 2005 stuff. What scares me however, is the thought of also removing the Sharepoint, WSUS and SBSMonitoring databases too.
Can someone help me with a procedure for sorting it out? How can I tell what I should uninstall and what I shouldn't? How do I tell if workgroup is already there and why did express steal the default instance?
Cheers
James
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Apr 6, 2007
I have 2 web servers in a workgroup both running SQl 2005 SP2. both servers have a user called sqluser which is the main login for sql on both boxes. When I use the mirroring wizard it creates the end points ok but does not like the fqdn of each server, these are called webserver1 and webserver2. Is the problem because of the name and lack of domain ? Can I add a user for server1 on server2 or do I need to use certificates to get Mirroring working in this type of environment ?
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Dec 3, 2007
I am a very beginner in setting sql server 2005.
I was not sure if sql 2005 workgroup edition supported online database when I compared on MSN comparison chart.
Does workgroup edition only work in local computers?
Can I install 2005 workgroup edition on a windows server and run a business website requiring database?Thanks in advance.
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Jul 8, 2006
In the following scenario, I am getting the message 'Login failed for user '(null)'. Reason: Not associated with a trusted SQL Server connection'.
I am running a Windows Server 2003 with development environment and Sql Server Management Studio in a workgroup on a virtual PC.
My SQL Server 2000 is running on a domain server.
On the virtual Pc I have setup my user login and password to be the same as my domain login and password. Why is the Management Studio not using impersonation and allowing me to connect to the SQL server on the domain?
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Aug 8, 2007
Hi Guys,
I'm trying to connect to a sql express on a workgroup PC through sql server 2005 standard edition remotely but i can't.
I have checked and make sure that tcp/ip and other protocals are allowed. There is no firewall on both PCs and the sql browser service is running as well.
Somehow i can connect using the IP address but not the name?
Any idea why?
TA
Gemma
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Feb 3, 2007
HI All,
After i installed SQL Server 2005 workgroups edition to my Laptop, P4 and 1 Giga memory. I had a problem.
my problem is: when i start my laptop need 4 minutes to start the windows xp pro edition.
then I format my laptop and install the windows again, and every thing works fine, but I installed the SQL again and i had same problem with windows startup, there is nothing related to SQL in ;msconfig utilities.
do you have any tip about this problem ?
Thank You
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Nov 15, 1999
Would someone please tell my how to share the same NT Login on a Publisher and a Subscriber Server. For example, one of
the requirements for Replication is that the Publication Server and
Subscription Servers should share the same SQL Executive account. I tried
doing this in Control Panel, Services Applet, Startup, and This Account Box. The Subscribing Server is not allowing me to map the login of the Publishing Server. I also tried within NT User Manager for Domains. I am not able to figure this out. I am trying to get Replication to work within a Workgroup on two NT 4.0 Servers SP3, with SQL Server 6.5 SP5a.
Thanks, Kevin
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Sep 27, 2005
Hello -- Please excuse my extreme newbieness -- trying to get up to speed fast on SQL Server Express for work. I've been able to set up the software, create a database, and access it with no problems on my local computer, but I need to make the database available to other computers in my workgroup. I followed instructions -- enabled TCP/IP and Named Pipes and turned on SQL Server Browser, and I was actually able to manipulate one system database (the "master" database) from another computer but not any other databases, not even the other system databases. I can connect to any of the databases with the SQLCMD commands, but if I try to do any SELECT commands (other than in "master") I get an error: "SELECT permission denied on object '[MyTable]', database '[MyDatabase]', schema 'dbo'". I was only able to get into "master" after adding "guest" as a user, but adding this user to the other databases has no effect. One interesting thing: When I used the sp_table_privileges command on each database, all but "master" showed all privileges being granted to and from "dbo", but "master" didn't show anything being granted to or from anybody. Does anyone know what could be going on here? Am I missing something obvious? Thanks for any and all help!
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