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Hi, I'm calling the cross validation SP like this
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and I get this error:
Parsing the query ...
Error (Data mining): The attribute, 'V Product View Event', is not valid in the current procedure call because the attribute is not a PREDICT or a PREDICT_ONLY attribute for the model, 'V Product Event 1'.

Parsing complete

In my model 'V Product View Event' is a predictable attribute. It so happens that I'm using association rules. And 'V Product View Event' is a nested table (a TableMiningStructureColumn). Inside the 'V Product View Event' nested table I have a 'Product' ScalarMiningStructureColumn. Is there any way to call the SP with nested tables in models? I'm using SQL Server 2008 June CTP.

thanks,
Gustavo Frederico

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How does cross-validation work in the case of models with predictable nested tables? Is it supported? For classification and regression with a flat structure, during the testing phase (that is, validation phase) of cross-validation I can think of the inputs being presented and comparing the predicted value with the real value. But in the case of nested tables, the input is not a subset of the attributes (a subset of the input vector), but whole input vectors. (For instance, complete itemsets in the case of association rules). Can you please explain some more how the validation phase works in the case of the association rules and decision trees with predictable nested tables?

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(Microsoft.DataTransformationServices.VsIntegration)

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Hi,

I have a problem in design the tables.  My main task is to learn how to give the Match Score.

I have hundreds of dataset and one of them is like this:







Test Record Number: 19
Prospect ID = 254040088233400441105260031881009
Match Score = 95
Input Record Fielding  ( eg wordnumber[Field] ) : 1[1] 2[1] 3[11] 4[11] 5[11]
   Prospect Word = 1 type = 1 match level = 4 input word  = 1 input type  = 1
   Prospect Word = 2 type = 2 match level = 0 input word  = NA input type  = NA
   Prospect Word = 3 type = 3 match level = 4 input word  = 2 input type  = 1
   Prospect Word = 4 type = 11 match level = 4 input word  = 3 input type  = 11
   Prospect Word = 5 type = 13 match level = 4 input word  = 4 input type  = 11
   Prospect Word = 6 type = 14 match level = 4 input word  = 5 input type  = 11







Now I have all my data stored in the DB and I seperated them into 3 tables and their structures are:

1) prospect (id, testrecordnumber, prospectID, matchscore) 

2) inputfieldind (id, prspid, inputword, inputfield) 

3) prospectinfo (id, prspid, prospectword, prospecttype, matchlevel, inputword, inputtype)

and the prspid in table 2 & 3 refers to the prospectID in table 1.What I did was setting:

a) prospect table as case table with id AS key, prospectID AS input & predictable;

b) and the other two as nested tables with inputword/inputfield AS key & input, prospectword/prospecttype/matchlevel/inputword/inputtype AS key & input .

But it shows error for having multiply key columns...

 

And also I am thinking about using the Naive bayes algorithm.  Can I also have some suggestion on this?

 

Thanks

 

 

 

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