Drivers/Hardware :: Is 100mb System Partition Required On Data Disk
Aug 28, 2015
I originally started with a HDD with windows installed on it and data in anther partition on the drive, then got a SSD and moved the windows partition onto it,
my drives and partitions look like this:
I'm not sure if to remove the old SYSTEM partition or not, and if the SSD needs one also, My boot is also a lot slower on windows 10
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Jan 11, 2016
re Settings -> System -> Storage
It seems as though Windows 10 can add some, but not necessarily all new or detected partitions to an aggregate capacity under the label This PC (C: ) Even if the partitions are empty NTFS or RAW (inc. Linux Swap?) also include them as usage: 'System & reserved.' I haven't able to discern a pattern of how Windows 10 determines if a new or empty formatted partition will be added to the aggregate Storage summary. At best it's confusing, and appears to be broken.
Further: deleting some partitions, or shutting down, unplugging disks and rebooting does not necessarily alter the reported aggregate that is shown for This PC (C: ) i.e. You would expect removing all drives and partitions to restore This PC (C: ) status to show only the Windows partition capacity - it doesn't and it continues to show 100s extra GB that are no longer present on the PC.
E.g. on my previous install I was seeing an impossible 239GB 'system & reserved' with 323GB 'capacity.'
My system:
Windows 10 & 7 partitions each = 100GBWindows disk total capacity = 223GBOther disks, mix of NTFS, EXT4 (Mint 17, /home) Swap (Linux)
N.B. I've tried this a couple of ways with fresh installs on clean disks and see the same result. It doesn't make a difference if Windows 10 or Windows 7 is installed first. I have made the partition order:
recovery|efi|msr|windows|other
Other things that make no difference:
Removing or assigning new disk lettersFor both Windows 10 and Windows 7:
Hibernation is disabled (from admin cmd terminal)Page-file management to be on C: only (other disks set to none)
At the moment I am unsure if this is merely a 'cosmetic' issue or something that might cause more serious functionality problems later e.g. not being able to install since Windows incorrectly thinks a drive or partitions are used or reserved.
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I tried to access a laptop hard disk using an adapter from a laptop. Once or twice It was successful but last time I checked it showed me files and folders with unreadable characters and it's partitions are also gone. When I checked its format I found out that it has changed from NTFS to FAT32.
When I try to open any file or folder it gives an error message saying it's not accessible and the filename or directory name is incorrect. I tried reading another hard disk to see if it's something to do with my adapter but they are all working fine. What happened or to recover the data unharmed?.
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