Installation :: Turning Off Secure Boot / Fast Boot Required?
Apr 29, 2015
As I get ready to do a clean install of 10074 I am curious about the need to disable secure boot and fast boot options. If I do disable secure boot do I need to enable legacy boot?I have had limited success with previous installs to a 2nd hard drive and the problems that arose always seem related to dual booting.
In one instance I did a clean install of 10061 and had left secure boot enabled. In order to get dual boot working I had to disable secure boot, and upon rebooting I needed to change it back to secure. I then made Win 8.1 the default boot and then Win 10 would never boot from the menu, it would just take me back to the boot menu and I could boot into Win 8.1.
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After that shutdowns OK, but when she boots up it gets past the welcome screen and hangs on the desktop. Complete hang everything becomes unresponsive, but the mouse pointer. I can dance the pointer around but No keyboard input no GUI input, nothing. Only way to come out is with a POWER BUTTON DOWN. Was trying to solve this issue since December and never found any solution, thought it was drivers or internet, or hardware but nothing, no dice. Even if it didn't connect to the internet after install and a program or 2 were added via USB and I shut down it would hang upon next boot.
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So two questions, why is it checked and greyed out (that I cannot uncheck it) and 2, the only way I was able to change the value was manually via @Brink registry edit.
OPTION 2 - using a bat file because option 1 was unavailable.
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#1 Fast Boot option to disable on startup is not avialable on the machine? Value is "1" in registry but cannot make changes to it via control panel as it simply is just not there. (This was the case with both HDD and new SSD). Windows 8.1 shows the option, not 10.
#2 Hangs on startup after welcome screen
#3 Only way to prevent is to run the .bat file from @Brink or manually edit value in regedit, save, exit, shutdown, go on with life.
AFAIK value in REGISTRY is set at '0' and machine works ....
Brink has this option on his machine via control panel but I do not on the laptop. Brinks:
My PC does not give me that option at all. Is if it doesn't even exist.
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Jan 3, 2016
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I followed the steps and deleted the existing windows 10 partitions on my dad and tried installing straight to the unallocated space. After the installation completed it restarted the installer, which is not what happened when I previously successfully install windows 10. I then changed the boit order to have my ssd first and rebooted, which gave me the Reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media error.
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Sep 29, 2015
Over the weekend I upgraded from 8.1 (which was working perfectly) to Windows 10. Unfortunately, it had a few problems - namely that it would 'hang' at random intervals (5 minutes to 5+ hours). In an attempt to isolate what was causing this, I was advised to use Msconfig to do a clean boot.
Unfortunately, in the process, I have rendered my PC near-useless, as I accidentally ticked the box "Use original boot configuration" under Selective startup. (I know, I know. I'm so cross with myself.) As a result, I am now presented with what looks like my old boot screen - offering Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 8.1, Windows 8.1 with Media Center, but no Windows 10.
(I originally had Windows 7 on what is now my D: drive. I ended up dual booting with this and Windows 8, but I'm pretty sure the version of 8.1 - which I've just upgraded to Windows 10 - was a clean install. It's certainly on my SSD (C: drive).)
Anyway, by using Change defaults... - Choose other options - Troubleshoot - Start-up Settings, I was at least able to bring up the screen that gives you Safe Mode as an option. This allowed me to boot into Windows 10 Safe Mode.
I went back to MSConfig and eventually found a way to deselect 'Use original boot configuration' (it was greyed out for a while). However, on restart, it still showed me the old options, i.e. no sign of Windows 10 Pro. It seems the only way I can currently boot into Windows 10 is via Safe Mode.
I've tried various things today - I tried to use Bcdedit to force it to look at the C: not D: drive, and I've tried booting with a Windows 10 DVD and using the Repair option (but partway into the repair process it starts thinking it's a Windows 8 machine again...).
I've just 'spoken' to a chap at Microsoft and he is adamant that there's no alternative (because there's no Refresh option under Settings - Update & Security - Recovery) but to reinstall Windows 8.0, and then upgrade to 8.1 and then Windows 10. As you can imagine, I really, really don't want to go down that route. But, at the moment, I can't even roll back to 8.1.
Given that I can still - sort of - boot into Windows 10, the correct MBR/BCD/whatever must still be on my C: drive somewhere, surely?
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