Performance :: For SSD Disable System Restore And Hibernate?
Feb 10, 2016
True that if one disables System Restore, then an alternate backup software is needed. Yet, I'm wondering if this is something which you recommend if looking for improving SSD performance (exclude the risk of not having a backup)?
The other bit is, though SSD are faster for boot time, with Win10 it takes about 25 seconds from cold boot to be on desktop. In Win8/8.1, it took me 8 seconds with the same Intel 520 240GB SSD. With Hibernate enabled, the boot is faster than 25 seconds but not 8 seconds.
I recently installed an SSD and I found out while running Samsung's OS Optimization disk that it has turned off System Restore by default. I of course can turn it back on, but I wanted to get feedback on turning on System Restore on an solid state drive.
I created a system image on a Seagate external hard drive using Windows 10 Home, and I created a restore disc for booting with an external BUFFALO DVD drive connected to a USB port. I went into the UEFI and set my BUFFALO drive as the first drive to be used for booting at power up or reset. When I restarted the computer, a message appeared saying "Press any key to boot from CD or DVD". I pressed a key. After a few minutes, the following screen appeared:
I used the down-arrow key to select US and hit enter. Then the following screen appeared:
I used the down-arrow key to select "Choose Device" and hit enter. Then the following screen appeared:
This screen gave me only two options: (1) Boot with the BUFFALO optical drive, and (2) Boot with the Solid State Drive which the HP Spectre x360 has (instead of a real hard drive). When I used the down arrow to select the BUFFALO optical drive, the screen that asks for the desired keyboard layout reappeared. When I selected US and hit enter, the screen that asks for a booting option reappeared. When I selected "Choose Device" and hit enter, the screen that gave me the option to boot with either my BUFFALO optical drive or the Solid State Drive reappeared. I found I could keep going around in circles like this, without ever having an opportunity to restore the computer with a system image I had created earlier.
I usually see the restore points created by windows but it isn't everyday backup, so I want to do a daily restore point backups, I went to Task Scheduler >> Windows>>System Restore, there is a task already there, I changed it to be daily at 4am, and It's enabled.
I check everyday in history and I see that the job is successfully done, but if I go to restore points I don't see any of those backups except the ones which Windows creates randomly or after installations.
I understand, that 10 relies on reset/refresh, but disabling SR is a bit drastic. Especially taking into account, how many flaws are in 10 right now, I wonder how it made RTM.
New desktop computer - Windows 10 Home. In System Restore, Configure, the Max Usage slider is all the way to the left.What does that mean?The hard drive is 1 TB, so I'm not concerned about how much it uses.(On my old Windows 7 desktop, I moved the slider to the right and it now saves fewer restore points.)
How to turn system restore on or off. I do Macrium backups frequently and absolutely do not need the system restore turned on. I turn it off and occasionally check back only to find it on again. Not sure what is activating it. I am going to start checking each time I boot the computer up in the mornings to see if it turns on every new boot. Just rebooted my computer and system protection isn't turned on. Wonder if updates or something is making default on or something.
Is it just me, or is System Restore in Win10 wonky? I have it turned on for both my C and D partitions. The other day I needed to go back to a restore point from 3 days before. The operation completed without issue, but then I found I wasn't able to reverse it.
In Win7 before restoring it would automatically create an "unrestore" point so the user would be able to undo the restore operation if they needed to. This isn't happening in Win10. Nor does the system automatically create a restore point before installing or uninstalling a program like Win7 did.
The "Restore Previous Versions" feature is also affected. When I right-click a file and choose "Restore previous versions", the Properties tab comes up instead of the Previous Versions tab. Clicking on the tab it always says there are no previous versions available, even though there should be since there are several restore points. The other day an important file got corrupted and I thought I could restore an earlier version like I always could under Win7 but the tab was empty.
Since installing Windows 10 I've had a problem with System Restore. As you can see from the attached graphic, I can access the System Restore panel but System Restore for the Windows drive is turned off (orange box) and the means of restoring to an earlier restore point as well as Create are greyed out.
The ONLY thing the window allows me to do is to go to the Configure panel. When I get there I find that System Protection is disabled and I cannot turn it on. However, my system IS using some space (blue box) although I have a sneaky suspicion that has not changed since I installed W10.
My question therefore is really: how do I enable System Restore?
After writing the above I did a search in the registry for System Restore but there were only about six or seven references. I also had a quick look at Services and noticed that VSS was stopped. Following a search which revealed that System Restore might depend on it I started it. I then signed out and then back in again but I still can't get System Restore enabled.
A couple of days ago I made a system image backup (there were no error messages that it was unsuccessful), now I need to restore it, I boot Windows 10 DVD, point to a network location and start the restore, but after an hour or so, at the end it errors with "0x80070057: Parameter is incorrect". After that Windows boots to diagnostic mode but fails to repair anything. Diskpart shows that the partition which used to be C is RAW, I also have an impression that the order of partitions is different (C was 3rd, after restore it seems to be 1st). I checked and I'm able to mount VHDX with C partition and access all files, chkdsk doesn't find any errors on it. It's a UEFI computer with GPT installation. Is there some way to restore it with some 3rd party tool, or manually? What can I do?
PS: there's a lot of clues on the internet about fixing similar problem when such error popups at the beginning of restore from a USB thumb drive. The solution is to unplug the thumb before starting so the restore doesn't get confused with the additional drive. It's not the case here, I'm not using USB thumb and I get the error at the end of restore.
Update: I managed to restore an older backup of Windows 8.1 from before upgrade to Windows 10. I used Windows 8.1 DVD for the restore.
The difference between an old image and the new one is that after upgrade to Windows 10 I removed an optical drive and replaced it with a SSD which I was using for page file and ReadyBoost. Also, Windows 8.1 had 3 partitions, while after upgrade to Windows 10 I noticed that there's some additional 4th partition (so there were 2 restore or EFI partitions, not sure which), but the backup image of Windows 10 still consists of 3 VHDX files. The image of Windows 10 isn't an image made from a scratch - when I was setting up the backup I simply pointed to the old 8.1 image and Windows 10 was making its images on top of the old one (I wanted it to backup the differences only, to avoid huge transfer of the whole drive).
Anyway, as I already stated I'm sure that VHDX of Windows 10 isn't corrupted. It's probably some problem with XML metadata so the restore procedure can't recreate proper partition layout corresponding with images, or something. A
I see that Win10 has deleted the function to schedule the creation of restore points! Supposedly it creates a new restore point before downloading updates (if the function is turned on; by default it is off!).
I like to schedule the creation of points every few days or each week to prevent viruses from corrupting things. This feature is so important; I can't believe they have hidden it, made it less functional, and turned it off by default!
Is there any way to run the creation button from the task scheduler or something to automatically schedule restore point creation?
Question; My computer had to be reformatted because of a lock out by a hacker, can I use a restore point that I made before the hack, to restore my files? The restore points and system image are on my back up drive , I restored a couple of files from it. and the folders are there but I do not want to screw things up, as I don't know what I am doing.
I use Macrium Reflect for image backup and want to permanently disable system protection. I have used the control panel to turn off system protection several times now but have noticed that for some reason periodically it gets turned back on. I have turned it off and then did a restart and it was still off but then several days later I checked and it was back on so I'm not completely sure what is triggering it to turn back on. Is there any way to turn it off so it doesn't come back on by itself?
I installed windows 10 technical preview yesterday . I found a problem with system restore. It goes through everything normally but after it reboots I get an error. In the details it says:
System restore failed to extract the original copy of the directory from the restore point. Source: %ProgramFiles%WindowsApps Destination: Appxstaging An unspecified error occurred during system restore. (0x80070057)
Maybe I have a misunderstanding of how System Restore works. Yesterday I uninstalled a program that I'd like to now get back. The company that made the program no longer offers archive downloads for that program in particular. Today it occurred to me that I could do a System Restore to when the program was still on this laptop & all would be returned as it was.
The first 2 times I tried was a total fail for returning the program but when I went back to a week ago it was there. Something is missing & it errors asking for the old install software that doesn't exist anymore (the program was purchased it 2008).
I have recently had to re-install Windows 10 and had problems before so decided this time to do a clean install and then run the system image backup. This went well but when it came to the testing of the restore a problem arose. I was using the Repair Disc created after the system image backup completed and could not understand the source file indicated was not where I had put the backup. The restore said the file was on the C: drive which was what I was trying to restore to.
This is on a fresh Windows 10 install, using a 60 GB SSD and a pair of 1 TB HDD's. No folders were moved off the SSD (C:) outside of what Windows supports. (That is, I moved all user folders to the HDD that I was allowed to, and installed all programs to the HDD that I was able to.)I enabled hibernation via the Power Options > System Settings section in the control panel. The C: drive has 25 GB free space; well more than enough for hiberfil.sys to work normally. When hibernating, the system appears to behave normally and hibernate as it should.
When booting from a hibernated system, the computer POSTs normally and then brings up the Windows 10 logo and loading screen briefly before powering off very suddenly. I have to turn on the system again, and when I do, it boots normally but the hibernation state is lost.I've attempted disabling fast startup, which seems to have no effect. I've updated my video drivers to 15.9 beta, but I recall this being a problem on 15.7 as well. Full system specs are in my profile. This machine was running Windows 7 in the past before upgrading, but I had to run a fresh install of Windows 10 after encountering some problems. (So the system is currently on a fresh install.) Google is also currently unable to deliver any relevant results for this problem. Windows Update reports being up to date.
Edit: Additionally, this has never been a problem on Windows 7. The SSD is in decent condition too, and has not exhibited any problems.
Edit: This problem was happening on shutdown and restart as well. I disabled fast startup, which corrected the problem when shutting down. Here's a summary of the behavior now:
Shutdown, no fast startup: Able to start up normally without any unexpected behavior.
Shutdown, fast startup enabled: Computer immediately shuts off just after reaching the Windows boot screen. Has to be powered on again and then will boot normally.
Hibernate, regardless of fast startup setting: Same behavior as above.
Conclusion: From my understanding, fast startup acts as a subset of hibernate. Windows 10 is not able to properly hibernate the driver(s) and/or some other system state. I might have to go through the drivers via process of elimination to see what's causing the problem.
Edit: I found the problem!
So despite no BSOD ever appearing, I ran the BlueScreenView utility to view the system dumps. Got the driver IRL not less than or equal error, found that it was from sptd2.sys; the SPTD (a SCSI bypass driver) I installed with Daemon Tools. I found a separate uninstaller for the driver and got rid of it; it's not something I need anyway. (Lots of Google searching will find you these utilities and solutions.)Would be nice if it showed an error or BSOD in the first place! I was about to go whack-a-mole on the drivers, but I would've never found the root cause.
Hibernation is turned on, as shown by the presence of the hiberfil.sys operating system file; however, I do not see the word "hibernation" when I right-click on Start and select "Shut down or sign out."
Also, my APC UPS does not object to the absence of hibernate, which the APC software uses when the battery is getting low; the software notifies me if hibernation is not present. Hybrid Sleep is turned off in Power Options.
A few minutes later, I finally found, here, a tutorial that I understood,, and which worked.
I have Windows 10 Home installed and activated (as Windows to Go) on an external Samsung T1 SSD. I enabled hibernation per the instructions here: Hibernate - Enable or Disable in Windows 10 - Windows 10 Forums. However, every time I attempt to hibernate, the screen goes black but the PC never powers off and Windows never successfully hibernates. (Hibernation works perfectly on the Windows 7 installation on the internal SSD.)
System: Dell Latitude E6530, Core i5-3210M, 4GB RAM
Just bought a new Windows 10, Office 2016, Ultra HD Lenovo computer. Already having issues, surprise surprise! Not only are there scaling/blurry issues with some apps, but Windows Backup and Restore is displaying the following error:
The semaphore timeout period has expired.
I'm trying to backup to an external Seagate drive.
I've tried several fixes as I was previously having this issue too ([URL]), but nothing has worked.
An update (very large) downloaded overnight. Now no e-mail; no AVG, no system restore and probably others I've not found yet. What are Microsoft Playing at. AVG will not reinstall and windows live mail will not start, even after reinstall.
So I tried to download the Cevo Client. then I got a popup Where Familiar.exe, wouldnt go away after restarting so I tried system recovery. Now it wont restart at all and im trying different methods. Right now im trying to recover it to an even earlier version but I think its stuck in that screen since its taking forever.
Is there an application, freeware or paid, that works in creating restore points in Windows 10, so if an installed application messes things up, I can restore the saved point, so Windows 10 loads as if the application was never installed in the first place, and Windows registry etc is restored to as it was BEFORE the application was installed?
